6.85 Interpretation

Oh, I still think Sunder is bad design and doesn't really synergise with the hero at all. It's just a lot more powerful now.

The reason you don't go SnY is that Manta is so much better, for DPS and for pushing, and the dispel is invaluable. Manta's also not much more expensive and you'll want it lategame, so the Sange is somewhat wasted.

The reason you don't go Drums unless you're desperate is because it's a midgame item on a decidedly NOT midgame hero. If you're struggling, a casual point booster works too.

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Point Booster is just far more cost-efficient than Sange, and even than Drum of Endurance.

Point Booster + Yasha >> Sange and Yasha.

The ms slow from Sange does help against kiting tho

That's what Skadi and Reflection are for. And Demonic Lea- oh wait.

Kappa.

ok imma clarify one thing.

TB can not rat that good. Given the fact that his E is now an aura, meaning that you can no longer demon form into manta and make one image , then letting these 3 illusions take the tower. You need to be there.


Also, manta is terrific on terrorblade!
You see his illusions are specifically identifiable. Which means manta illusions are the only thing keeping the enemy confused from knowing who the real TB is(manta illusions are still the same, they wont have the conjure image texture). They give good damage to tb. A good mild dispel.

Further, if you have metamorph ready and you use manta then go metamorphosis, you will have the reduced cooldown of melee form manta and get demon illusions!!

SnY is PASSE'. if you are falling behind:

If you are fighting, SnY is better value than [Yasha]] + Point Booster. You trade overall 6 slot efficiency for a more effective early- mid game. That's not a strange concept, you see it on cores a suprising amount.

You never used to see it on Terrorblade because the hero never used to fight. Now that his skill set leans towards bringing his massive DPS into fights earlier, and pushing off of those won fights, the item seems more justifiable

Because yeah, in terms of HP Point Booster is more efficient than Sange, but in terms of efficiency in fights, SnY is more efficient than Yasha + Point Booster.

Comes down to how the hero ends up playing as a result of the changes, and what Icefrog ends up doing for him in 6.86.

SnY comes online a hell of a lot earlier than PB + Yasha which you will eventually need to turn into Skadi + Manta. SnY will help you to fight earlier and honestly easier to farm due to the cheap components. can be disassembled, so if you want that Manta and Skadi just disassemble and sell sange.

But this build has literally no HP or Str. until Skadi?!?!? This seems lie glass cannon 600 HP Level 16 build.

You're playing PvE tower offence until Skadi. You don't need HP. Also that's what stats levels are for. You get about 1.3k hp by 20 minutes with Manta and level 14.

I think Icefrog is giving TB abysmal strength because in his head the concept of Sunder is basically a second life for TB. Satanic+ Sunder+ Aegis of the Immortal= 4 life TB Kappa