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Diffusal Rework

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Should diffusal keep its current charge system?
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by R-Conqueror » February 8, 2015 3:22pm | Report
So I don't know if its been talked about before, but getting a Diffusal Blade can leave you in a bind. This is mainly because you have a maximum of 16 uses of this item. So you might really want Diffusal 2, but you still have 4 charges left on your first one and you want to use those up first. So I'm wondering, could we either

A: make it just a cooldown and eliminate the charges, or
B: Make it kind of like Riki's Blink Strike, with less charges at first but they can recharge over time.

Thoughts?
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by KoDyAbAbA » February 8, 2015 4:25pm | Report
making a diffusal blade tests your decision making.

1.Did you make diffusal for the purge? A: don't upgrade diffusal until all charges are used.

2.Did you make diffusal for the damage? A: Upgrade that ****.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by R-Conqueror » February 8, 2015 6:10pm | Report
KoDyAbAbA wrote:

making a diffusal blade tests your decision making.

1.Did you make diffusal for the purge? A: don't upgrade diffusal until all charges are used.

2.Did you make diffusal for the damage? A: Upgrade that ****.

I guess that's a good way of thinking of it, I just feel like you could run out of purges too soon if you're ganking a lot against an Omni or something.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Terathiel » February 8, 2015 9:26pm | Report
Why not just add a Diff 3?
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Hamstertamer » February 8, 2015 9:47pm | Report
I think the effect is way too strong for it to have infinite charges.

Please think of that poor Crystal Maiden whose Ghost Scepter is her only defense against a world of feed. And then the big bad cancer lancer dispels it with infinite diffusal every time.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by MrLocket » February 8, 2015 9:57pm | Report
240 golds for a purge is very reasonable, if you want to give it infinite charges you will have to nerf its cooldown badly, like 50 seconds cooldown.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Unscathed » February 9, 2015 1:51am | Report
Diffusal mana burn doesnt scale with upgrades anymore kody

The only buff i think it needed is 40 mana burn on main and half on illusions


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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by UltraSuperHyper » February 9, 2015 2:22am | Report
Why not make a separate recipe for just replenishing the charges and make its cost half of the actual recipe?

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Sando » February 9, 2015 5:27am | Report
It is slightly weird - you kinda wanna use all those charges in the 850g window between getting it and buying the upgrade :/.

I'd think the easiest solution would be that the new reciepe simply adds +8 charges instead of replenishing them. If that seems a bit OP, make it a smaller number, say +6 or +7.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by R-Conqueror » February 9, 2015 11:35am | Report
Some good thoughts, what about making it like Drums, where you can always buy another recipe for more charges?
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