Octarine Core Weaver?

Could this be a good item? Think about it for a few seconds. It gives The Swarm over a 100% uptime, Shukuchi will also have a very high uptime (0,5s effective cooldown), Geminate Attack will have a 2,25s cooldown and Time Lapse will have a 30s cooldown. It also gives you the mana required to spam all these skills all the time and it gives you some much needed health. Do you guys think this is worth getting over a damage item?

Not really convinced, is the potential Beatle lasting time really that important? Shuki CD is less of an issue at this point than the oppositon having True Sight. Geminate Attack CD...you just want damage.

Ultimately Octarine Core is really a casters item, and all about lifestealing magic damage and having tons of mana to cast it. Low priority on Weaver, better just to build stats and damage. Would much rather have an Eye of Skadi.

Idk I think building damage and stats is more viable like what sando said

I mean if you want a lower cd ult you could get Aghs...

I agreed with Sando and the others, not sure it's a great item. If you play support Weaver you're better off with other cheaper items faster anyway (such as Solar Crest and Aghanim's Scepter), and if you're a core bug you definitelly need damage and stats to survive, none of it really comes from a super expensive Octarine Core.

The thing with her spells is they don't really matter all that much in the late game, tbh, with the exception of your ulti: you will be right clicking people constantly and making sure not to get caught, or escape on the nick of life if you are caught. So you want damage to burst them down as quick as possible, which you don't do by using your spells. The best builds I've seen lately even have things such as Mjollnir, because AS is not as negligible on her anymore.

As for the mana, she doesn't really need it past early game, where you should be fine with items such as Ring of Aquila, Infused Raindrops and thread switching.

TL DR, yea, I'd prefer a Skadi for more HP, or even a Heart of Tarrasque in very specific circumstances, and Aghs if you want short ulties to use on your allies as well.

Radiance into Octarine Core is a super fun troll build on Weaver. You can be almost permanently in Shukuchi and burn people down with radiance.

In a serious match, no :)

Shukuchi is not just the invis. It's also the max movement speed, the phasing movement, and the immunity to slows. The MS is the best part about the skill actually, so it's good even when facing mass detection.

My first idea with Octarine Core was the cooldown reduction of Geminate Attack. While it does drop off later in the game, it's still a double attack every 2,25 seconds and with a MKB or similar items it could maybe still deal some decent DPS while having tons of nice side effects. Tomorrow i'm going to do some DPS testing in the demo mode. I'll make a spreadsheet and test some common Weaver builds and then we'll see how effective it actually is.

And don't forget that with (almost) perma- Shukuchi you won't need boots, meaning that you can get 1 more damage item.

Shukuchi cooldown is 6 seconds and its duration 4 seconds. 2 seconds downtime doesn't seem like something Octarine Core worth it, don't you think? :D and geminate has also just a 3 seconds cd, which is super low anyway.

I mean, you already don't need boots in the late game indeed, and you can and should get that extra damage item, but do you mean by this that it could be the Octarine? Cause I don't think Octarine can give you more damage than a Daedalus or something like that at that point.

But you're right about the MS, her level 25 talent is incredible in the late game, not even for actual teamfights - where you will be visible and they are going to try to disable you anyway - but for the splitpushing and joining fights.

On the contrary, CDR is way better on something with less downtime( Ember Spirit, Naga Siren and Naga Alchemist).

DOn;t get me wrong, the item is **** on Weaver.

Yea you're right Dimony, I mean specifically lowering the cd in this case, for Weaver's spells.