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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Dimonychan » December 20, 2015 11:53am | Report
Pretty quick for Valve's standards.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Hades4u » December 20, 2015 12:20pm | Report
Edited your title, you wrote 6.85b. :D

Not really related to the new 6.86b, but it's worth watching:

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Bunkansee » December 20, 2015 12:23pm | Report
Glad DP got a bit of a buff, I think the skill is already quite good but a little longer duration for higher value slow + damage is really good considering it has quite a long cooldown. Can't wait to play this hero more.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Hamstertamer » December 20, 2015 12:29pm | Report
Now people will finally stop building Battle Fury on Riki. Not that it was viable in the first place.

The new Void, LD and Riki sound perfectly playable and actually situationally really strong. Bulldog bribed Icefrog for 6.86 btw. I'm still not sold on the new DP and OD, they feel pretty weak because they lost a lot of their old strength. And Doom is straight up trash, no idea why he wasn't even buffed, must be Icefrog's idea of a troll to Doom pickers.

By the way, is Savage Roar just a "get away from me" defensive skill for kiting/pushing, or have you guys found a use to it as a disable bu cutting off poeple with a a blink or something?
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Dimonychan » December 20, 2015 1:21pm | Report
Hades4u wrote:

Edited your title, you wrote 6.85b. :D

>Whoops!

Many players actually think Riki is straight up trash now because he has Spectre levels of lane presence with his 0 regen now. I don't know yet because I haven't played him and the only Riki I matched with so far was the guy who randomed him, went SnY-Dagon and flamed me for being a "russian ****" or smth(even though I never typed a single cyrillic sign for the whole game) and for getting Divine on Arc Warden. So I really don't know, but the hero seems like an underpowered Juggernaut parody to me. Shame, I loved surprise picking a guy and watching enemy supports walk with Boots of Speed and Sentry Wards 30 mins in.

Btw it looks like Arc Warden just doesn't win games, but not because he is **** or smth, just because all your team goes like "instamute and report 37% wr nice hero" and start doing dumb **** so you have to play against your enemies and your teammates. Or maybe I'm just unlucky.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Hamstertamer » December 20, 2015 1:31pm | Report
Riki won an ultimate almost for free because his other skills are still as strong, only his stats got toned down a bit. Sure his laning sucks now, but it was never that good to begin with, regen or not. And his weakness to 5-man dota is almost entirely fixed, that's a major buff. Before it was just sooo easy to deathball with sentries and necrobook when playing against a riki.

Trading regen for a press R win teamfight ulti? I'd take that anyday.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Dimonychan » December 20, 2015 1:43pm | Report
He didn't get it for free, he lost a lot of killing potential early-midgame and regen really matters. You could use Blink Strike several times to chase and damage them. New ulti is kinda gimmicky and is hard to kill someone with before you get a Basher or Skadi. I also don't think he is that good against deathball now. His ulti is 70 second cd and is kinda easy to avoid.

I don't know, I have to play him to see, but i don't think he is stronger now.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Hamstertamer » December 20, 2015 1:52pm | Report
4 second cooldown blink instead of the old 35 second cooldown charge restore ability? I'd that this anyday. Old blink was 5 second cd.
I mean he's literally the only hero in the game with a 4 second cooldown blink right now.

Ult gimmicky and easily dodged? Maybe, but even if it only disperses people to avoid it it's good enough, then he can focuse them one by one.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Sanvitch » December 20, 2015 2:03pm | Report
He feels like the weakest hero on earth on lane though. Sure, he wasn't exactly good before, but he at least had the regen which made him semi tanky. But losing that, and losing some stat gain really hurt. Like he's probably a worse laner than Spectre now.

Like he has to be a safe laner now, whereas before he was an okay offlaner designed to pick-off and kill supports at the start of the fight because you could just Blink Strike them 2 or 3 times and kill them.

Losing the turn rate slow of smoke also made that harder.

I'll agree that he's now better mid-late game because he has a source of team-fight damage now (A remarkably powerful one), but him getting there is harder, and his solo kill potential is worse.

Since you just can't have enough Chaos Breaker.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Terathiel » December 20, 2015 5:06pm | Report
No Terablyat buffs? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
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