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6.83(bullshit tier patch)->6.84(perfect communism patch)

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As now everybody has their own threas for thir changelogs, here goes mine.

Some heroes may have been overnerfed/overbuffed a bit, but generally I tried not to make any big changes unless I was sure the hero is broken(in either way) and needs some serious treatment. This is on;y balance changelog, but Dota 2 system has to be reworked as well, but who cares.

icefrog pls

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Soul booster suicide?

Atos now roots?

Whats with the necro nerf?

Why the hell are you nerfing zeus?

Mek is now late game item.

Nerfing drow, who is so easy to **** on?

Dude most of these imo are unnecessary and very lame.. Some i do like, the sort of CD imcreases of spells

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Now regardin general Doto changes:

Low Priority queue games do not count towards general player statistics.

Randoming is disabled in Ranked Matchmaking.

MMR values are reset every three months, with previous RMM rating affecting the calibration(so 7k guys won't have to dig through scrubs every time).

You can add any player to your matchmaking blacklist, nullyfuing your chances to be matched with that player.

MMR values are shown on loading stage.

There is no penalty for declining the game/abandoning before the picks start if it hadn't occured during last 24 hours.

Intentional feeding and Ability Abuse reports can only be submitted by allies.

After a game in Normal lobby games you can rate your allies' performance affecting their matchmaking priority. Higher ranked players will get matched with similarly ranked players and vice versa.

Valve actually spends some mobey on their **** servers.

That'sabout all for now. maybe I will remember something else.

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Dimo pls

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wrote:

After a game in Normal lobby games you can rate your allies' performance affecting their matchmaking priority. Higher ranked players will get matched with similarly ranked players and vice versa.

This sounds actually pretty smart.

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Dimo pls

change was unnecessary, true, I just wanted to give it some utility, but it was not the right idea it seems.
is useful for... oh wait, nobody, hahahaha. Maybe range needs some nerf, 1200 is too much, but with range of 700-800 it will actually be a good item.
is OP, so obviously he needs a nerf.
has too much burst damage, also OP.
is now supposed to be a mid-game item for tanks when they will have enough HP and mana. Probably should have raised the cost, I forgot about the recipe cost.
Nerfing ? Unchathed pls.

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Having atos as a root... I cant imagine it... pls
might be really strong, but reverting all the buffs is really lame
OP? He is slow, squishy, no CC, ofc he has large damage. Not to mention he has the worst lane control EA. Dimo pls.
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oops i misread

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Having atos as a root... I cant imagine it... pls
might be really strong, but reverting all the buffs is really lame
OP? He is slow, squishy, no CC, ofc he has large damage. Not to mention he has the worst lane control EA. Dimo pls.
k
oops i misread

Why can't you imagine atos having a root?
I am not reverting Aghs buff. And why can't I revert a lame buff that was not necessarry at all?
All you say is common for excusing squishy heroes. His damage output is ridiculous, it has to be nerfed. Who needs speed and HP(btw he has 2.3 STR growth and often goes for HP items) when you melt heroes with three casts?

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TIMTHOUGHTS IN ORANGE 2.0!!! HOLY **** THIS LIST IS LONG! GOTTA GO FAST.
.2 is supposed to mean 0.2 and not 1.2 like you do all the time here. TIM HURTS HIMSELF IN HIS CONFUSION

's now affects buildings and deals half the damage to them(96/162 at levels 1/4). AWESOME, NOT SURE IF OP BUT I LOVE IT. probably needs to do less damage against towers though
's STR and AGI growth are now 2(were 1.8/.2). much change
's ]] health regeneration is now 50 on all levels, BAT is 1.6/.4/.2. Y?

's manacost rescaled to 120/130/140/150. ok then
's radius is now 300(was 275). more ice is not nice

's STR growth is now 1.5(was .2) BEST RANDOM BUFF EU

's starting STR is now 22(was 25) SURE. his laning is ****en strong currently.
's manacost is now 125(was 80[+10]->110).
's bonus armor is now 20(40). i like these nerfs, now he doesnt have max armor all the time in call.

's manacost is now 80(was 120). 2/10, sando's rescaling = 10/10

's and both cost 40 mana now(were 30/35). not sure if needed.

's MS reduced to 315(325). plz no nerf extremely situational and useually weak heroes

's cooldown is 140/120/100(160[-20]->120). k

's cooldown is now 60/50/40(70/55/40)(still 12 with ).
's INT growth is now 1.8(1.3). YESSSSS, BUFF MEEEE

's movespeed is now 295(280). FEMINISM

's manacost is now 85(70). OK THEN

's cooldown is now 120/110/100(100). doom no OP

's movespeed is now 300(290).
's damage is now 100[+80]->340(90[+70]->300). random buffs that dont adress his issues.

's deactivation radius in now 300(400)
's AGI growth is now 2.5(was 1.9). WHOOPS I MISREAD, NOTHING TO SEE HERE

's max Stome Remnant amount is now 5(6). KEEP HANDS OFF ROCKS
's target travel speed is now 1000(1200). k

's cooldown time is now 20(15). dayum isnt that unneeded?

's cooldown is now 24[-5]->9(30[-8]->6). 2/10. sando idea 10/10

' STR growth is now 1.4(1). DAT ~7 HP PER LEVEL MORE m9

's cooldown time is now 15[-1]->11(15). k

's Backtrack chance is now 11%[+3%]->20%(10%[+5%]->25%). meh

's now requires 2[+1]->5 hero and 4[+2]->10 hits by towers.
's cooldown is 60[-5]->50(55[-5]->45).

's base AGI is now 22(15). sure

's cooldown is now 20[-5]->5(22/17/12/5)

's attack speed bonus is now 50[+10]->80(40[+10]->70)

's movement speed is now 325(450). jis plz
's now provides gold bounty of 100. not really the best targeted nerfs.

's now slows movement and attack speed for 5% per second channeled up to 25%. SEMENBLAST 9000 2.0!!!!!

's Ghost Ship coodown is now 80[-10]->60(60[-10]->40). kunkka nerf?

's range is now 400(150). dayum dat range. sounds kinda weird
's AGI growth is now 2.2(1.7).

's STR growth is now 1.8(.5). GIFF MORE AND MOAR STARTING HP

's starting STR is now 19(15).
's now grants her 25% bonus attack and movement speed.
's attack range is now 400(330). moving towards OPville?

's movement speed is now 522(650).

' cooldown is now 90(120[-10]->100)

's range is now 650(500[+250]->1250) OPPPPPEEEEEE
's respawn time reduction is now 15%(10%[+10%]->30%)

's manacost is now 120(140/155/160/165).

Nature Prophet's Call of Nature treants damage is now 30(21-22). return of prophet, ABANDON OFFLANE JUNGLE FROM START

' respawn time penalty is removed.
' range is now 400(600). green santa is fiiiiine. well maybe that respawn time but scythe is **** on lvl 1 anyway

's base armor is now 4(7).
's chances for 2/3/4x cast are now:
- 25/35/50% for 2x(40%[+10%]->60%)
- 0/15/25% for 3x(0/20/25%)
- 0/0/10% for 4x(0/0/12.5%) completely unneeded nerfs. was maybe already overnefed

's cooldown time is now 25(14).

's BAT is now 1.6(1.4).
's cooldown is now 45(20).
's manacost is now 50[+25]->125(55[+15]->100)

Outworld Devourer's coodown is ow 120(160). yes, more boom.

's now works on spell immune heroes but does not apply attack speed bonus. very nice

's cooldown is now 12(7). but kotl ;_;

's Fire Spirit slow now lasts 3 seconds(4). Damage is still applied through full 4 seconds.

's AGI growth is now 2.6(1.7). thatttttts kinda unneeded. and random....

's movement speed is now 295(285).

's life drain(duh) is now 150[+25]->200(120[+40]->200)
's now gives vision and true sight on target unit.

's cooldown time is now 90(135).
's ppScream of Pain]] cooldown time is now 5(7). sounds nice

's manacost is now 100(120[+10]->150).

's range is now 300[+100]->600(350[+100]->600).

's damage is now 300[+100]->500(200[+100]->400).
Shadow Demin's now completely ignotres Spell Immunity.

's STR growth is now 1.6(2.2).
's range is now 500(900).
's damage is now 100[+50]->250(150[+50]->250).

's range is now 600(700).

's Bash chance is now 15%[+5%]->30%(10%[+5%]->25%). awwww jis. needs more then simple number adjustments though

's duration is now 3(4).
's passive health regeneration is now 3%[+1%]->5%(3%[+2%]->7%).

's duration is now 3[+1]->5(5[+1]->7). wat, spectre nerfs?

's damage is now 100[+50]->250(100[+5]->325). wat, sven nerfs?

' detonation delay is now 1(2). SANDO WILL LOVE DIS

's bonus damage is now 20[+10]->50(20[+20]->80).
's armor reduction is now 2[+1]->5(2[+2]->8). WHY DO PEOPLE WANNA MAKE HER **** TIER?

's STR growth is now 1.8(.4). he is not OP ;_;

's damage treshold is now 700(600[-50]->450).

Tibersaw's cooldown is now 8(4). timber isnt that good at all now since his offlane is really weak. and you want to make him garbage tier? rediculous suggestion

's now deals magic damage. WHY

's STR growth is now 2.4(3). the problem is IO + tiny not tiny

's BAT is now 1.7.

's STR growth is now 1.7(2.2).
's AGI growth is now 2.2(2.75).
's Whirling Axes(Ranged) range is now 700(900). okaydokey

's no longer provides gold bounty.
's now stop when they hit a hero.

's is no longer dispellable.
's cooldown is now 6(10). yes plz

's AOE is now cone shaped, with same propetries as .
's range is now 750/950/1250(650/925/1200).
's movement speed is now 310(295). buffs to the most picked hero in the professional scene. dat logic.

's damage threshold is now 80(110).

's INT growth is now 1.3(1.8).

's duration s now 8(11).
's slow per second is now 5%[+5%]->20%(7%[+7%]->28%).

's cooldown is now 115(80). probably needs minor buffs to other skills after such a nerf.

's STR growth is now 2.2(.9). dafuq, why?
's cooldown time is now 250[-75]->100(260[-100]->60).

' Lightning Botl damage is now 100/160/230/300(100/175/275/350).
' cooldown time is now 9(6).
' damage is now 3%[+2%]->9%(5%[+2%]->11%) of enemy's current health. LETS NOT THINK THIS THROUGH AND MAKE A FINE HERO ABSOLUTELY GARBAGE.

's stun chance for ranged heroes in now 12.5%(10%).

's Avatar duration now capped at 6 seconds, and cooldown on 60 seconds.
's recipe cost is now 1400(1375).

recipe cost is now 500(800).

's Corruption now reduces armor by 8(7).

now has infinite charges.

's cost is now 1500(1600). 's cost is reduced as well.

's Disarm now lasts 4 seconds for all heroes(3 for melee/4.5 for ranged).

's cooldown is now 13(17).

's max charges amount is now 20(17). MOST OP ITEM EU

now has no handicaps for ranged heroes. for some heroes this buff would be fine, but for some heroes like morphling and terrorblade it means that they will take rax in 3 seconds :P
Manta Stlye's Mirror Image manacost is now 125(165).

's Restore now heals for 20% of bearer's max health. DAYUM

's Static Shield duration is now 11(15).

's Mini-Bash damage is now 140(100). *gulp*

's Barrier duration is now 30(12). yes plz

' Cripple now roots enemy units for 3 seconds. *prepares anus*

's and 's Lesser Maim now has 25% proc chance(15%), and slows movement/attack speed for 30%/30(20%/20).

's Greater Maim now has 25% proc chance(16%), and slows movement/attack speed for 25%/25(32%/32).

's Freezing Aura attack speed slow is now 65(40). jjjjjjjjikes

now has Pocket Suicide active with same propertries as 's Pocket Suicide.

Break cooldown is now 10(13).

and now block 50/25 damage for melee/ranged wielder respectively(40/20).

reported for ridiculous timber and zeus nerfs. =D

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