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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Unscathed » March 3, 2015 12:48pm | Report
So, I have seen many discussions. well not too many actually. i would like to hear you good folks' opinions, pros, cons, current meta, etc.. on the following heroes:

Templar Assassin
Kunkka
Shadow Demon
Nature's Prophet
outworld devourer
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by KoDyAbAbA » March 3, 2015 1:03pm | Report
Waifu : Blink Dagger OP. all game monster.

Pro's : Insane damage output, can easily survive ganks and counter-initiations if brain is used.

Con's : very difficult to land psy blades, very squishy outside refraction.

Kunkka : can deal deceptively high damage, but....

Pro's : monster team-fighter and ganker.

con's : kinda easy to shut down and does surprisingly bad late-game as once his cleave is on cd, he is just a walking punch bag.

Shadow Demon : needs a good team comp to be effective.

Pro's : one of the best illusions in the game can be made from this hero.Best damage amp in game.good purge.

Con's : very.Very squishy.No true disable. Gets sniped.

Nature's Prophet : had his 5 minutes of fame.

Pro's : one of the best rats in the game. Good farming speed.

Con's : does not fit this meta, squishy as ****, nobody makes Blink Dagger.

outworld devourer : he too had his time.

Pro's : good damage output, ****s with int heroes so bad its not even funny.

Con's : Squishy. Black King Bar. Kiting problems. not so good late game.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Unscathed » March 3, 2015 1:33pm | Report
can we see more TA in pro games? (sry i dont watch much tho)
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Wulfstan » March 3, 2015 1:40pm | Report
Really surprised there's no extra TA in competitive, she's really good against both Storm Spirit and Shadow Fiend.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by SuperKamiGuru2.0 » March 3, 2015 1:55pm | Report
is OD really that bad? I just had a game with him and he seems pretty god darn strong.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Unscathed » March 3, 2015 1:58pm | Report
wulfy/hamster stick to topic pls ;_;
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Hamstertamer » March 3, 2015 2:07pm | Report
Templar Assassin
Strong hero.
Wins mid against most heroes and can win the game on her own by snowballing out of control. Good at any stage of the game.
Only problem is that she can get counterpicked mid and shut down in lane. So she needs to be last picked.
There isn't more TA in competitive because she gets banned everytime SF is picked, it's that simple xD

Kunkka
Very strong pub hero.
If you know how to play him his combo Xmark-> Torrent -> Boat is almost 100% reliable and will net you a billion kills by just doing it over and over.
Xmark is one of the most broken skills in the game.
Only downside is that he's not that hard to shut down in lane. He's a good solo mid as long as he's not up against heores like TA or QoP who will completely destroy him. Or roaming supports.

Shadow Demon
Niche pick.
Good hero if you have competent teammates. However he requires your team to follow up on your initiations or counterinitiations so he needs team coordination...not that good in pubs.
Strong counter to melee BKB carries though. Good pick against Troll Warlord.

Nature's Prophet
Decent hero, but out of the meta.
Most effective way to play Furion is actually as a global ganker, not as a rat. However this requires your team to have some kind of game impact and go for kills in the early game. Right now I feel everyone is completely AFK farm in the first 15 mins of the game.
Ratting with Blink Dagger still works, but even the Rat Lord Bulldog says it's not that effective.
Main problem is with all the Slarks and Storms lurking around, you're just food and your blink won't do ****.
Strong hero with a good team coordination though, but you need to go for kills not towers IMO.

outworld devourer
Decent hero, but doesn't really have a place.
Problem with OD is that he's no longer a "pick OD win mid" hero. Since he can be shut down mid, either by lane counters or early roaming, where do you lane him?
Still a good safe lane carry or dual offlane hero though. Actually I think his lane presence can be used better in a sidelane than in mid.

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hamster stick to topic pls ;_;

I didn't even post before this one ;_;
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Romark14 » March 3, 2015 2:08pm | Report

is OD really that bad? I just had a game with him and he seems pretty god darn strong.


If the other team doesn't itemise against him he will rek. Or, if you get off to a very good start and you can get on top of them so much they struggle to finish BKB's you will have a Rampage.

But, against better players, you aren't going to get that freedom really. He will get smoke ganked, he'll be prevented from snowballing, and he will be countered by a 4k item.

I think he is definitely one of the heroes that loses his potency the higher up the MMR ladder you go.

That isn't saying you can't have good games with him though. He is just a snowball hero and as the game drags on you have to have a traditional carry who can take the brunt of the action while you wait out the BKB's. As the game goes on, positioning becomes more and more vital.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Smuggels » March 3, 2015 3:44pm | Report
TA - orb of venom ... win lane

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