Please verify that you are not a bot to cast your vote.
Help SupportOur Growing Community
DOTAFire is a community that lives to help every Dota 2 player take their game to the next level by having open access to all our tools and resources. Please consider supporting us by whitelisting us in your ad blocker!
Want to support DOTAFire with an ad-free experience? You can support us ad-free for less than $1 a month!
So, I have seen many discussions. well not too many actually. i would like to hear you good folks' opinions, pros, cons, current meta, etc.. on the following heroes:
Templar Assassin
Strong hero.
Wins mid against most heroes and can win the game on her own by snowballing out of control. Good at any stage of the game.
Only problem is that she can get counterpicked mid and shut down in lane. So she needs to be last picked.
There isn't more TA in competitive because she gets banned everytime SF is picked, it's that simple xD
Kunkka
Very strong pub hero.
If you know how to play him his combo Xmark-> Torrent -> Boat is almost 100% reliable and will net you a billion kills by just doing it over and over.
Xmark is one of the most broken skills in the game.
Only downside is that he's not that hard to shut down in lane. He's a good solo mid as long as he's not up against heores like TA or QoP who will completely destroy him. Or roaming supports.
Shadow Demon
Niche pick.
Good hero if you have competent teammates. However he requires your team to follow up on your initiations or counterinitiations so he needs team coordination...not that good in pubs.
Strong counter to melee BKB carries though. Good pick against Troll Warlord.
Nature's Prophet
Decent hero, but out of the meta.
Most effective way to play Furion is actually as a global ganker, not as a rat. However this requires your team to have some kind of game impact and go for kills in the early game. Right now I feel everyone is completely AFK farm in the first 15 mins of the game.
Ratting with Blink Dagger still works, but even the Rat Lord Bulldog says it's not that effective.
Main problem is with all the Slarks and Storms lurking around, you're just food and your blink won't do ****.
Strong hero with a good team coordination though, but you need to go for kills not towers IMO.
outworld devourer
Decent hero, but doesn't really have a place.
Problem with OD is that he's no longer a "pick OD win mid" hero. Since he can be shut down mid, either by lane counters or early roaming, where do you lane him?
Still a good safe lane carry or dual offlane hero though. Actually I think his lane presence can be used better in a sidelane than in mid.
is OD really that bad? I just had a game with him and he seems pretty god darn strong.
If the other team doesn't itemise against him he will rek. Or, if you get off to a very good start and you can get on top of them so much they struggle to finish BKB's you will have a Rampage.
But, against better players, you aren't going to get that freedom really. He will get smoke ganked, he'll be prevented from snowballing, and he will be countered by a 4k item.
I think he is definitely one of the heroes that loses his potency the higher up the MMR ladder you go.
That isn't saying you can't have good games with him though. He is just a snowball hero and as the game drags on you have to have a traditional carry who can take the brunt of the action while you wait out the BKB's. As the game goes on, positioning becomes more and more vital.
DOTAFire is the place to find the perfect build guide to take your game to the next level. Learn how to play a new hero, or fine tune your favorite DotA hero’s build and strategy.
Late credits to Janitsu for the sig
Unscathed
<Editor>
Awards Showcase
Remarkable (47)
Posts: 3432
View My Blog
SIKE *****
KoDyAbAbA
Memorable (65)
Posts: 2366
Steam: Sir Rat-A-Lot
View My Blog
Hero Idea Archive
Newest Idea: Ibrik, the Tormentor
And the newest in my series of hero guides...
My Guide to the Grandest Magus of All
porygon361
<Editor>
Remarkable (46)
Posts: 1603
Late credits to Janitsu for the sig
Unscathed
<Editor>
Awards Showcase
Remarkable (47)
Posts: 3432
View My Blog
Wulfstan
<Retired Mod>
Awards Showcase
Memorable (77)
Posts: 2801
Steam: Wulfstant
View My Blog
SuperKamiGuru2.0
Posts: 111
Steam: TheFabulousHunter
Late credits to Janitsu for the sig
Unscathed
<Editor>
Awards Showcase
Remarkable (47)
Posts: 3432
View My Blog
Hero guides : Spectre , Windranger and Clinkz
== Broodmother guide out! ==
Hamstertamer
<Editor>
Awards Showcase
Memorable (89)
Posts: 2620
View My Blog
Split-puhing <- when you do it.
Rat doto <- when enemy does it.
Romark14
Notable (7)
Posts: 380
Steam: Romark14
I WILL DESTROY YOU ALL.... WITH FLUFFY BUNNIES
Smuggels
Awards Showcase
Memorable (82)
Posts: 2138
View My Blog