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Analyze Carry Game (first after months)

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Unscathed » January 16, 2015 8:39am | Report
http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/1166502045


After months of support and bot lobbies i decided to play a carry (shotout to smuggles for making me overcome my fear and play solo queue)

I say i did rather well.

I did some plays here and there.

There are also misclick *****



Anyways, can anyone analyze my game? Watching the game would be really appreciated.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Hamstertamer » January 16, 2015 8:43am | Report
Which hero did you play?
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by wangyuphing » January 16, 2015 8:46am | Report
your name?

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Unscathed » January 16, 2015 8:48am | Report
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I went phase vlads deso bkb cuirass
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by caine1232 » January 16, 2015 8:56am | Report
Your farm is eh.. for a 50 min game and being PA. Your build focuses on -armor which is okay, but you got no hp items (you managed to get away with it though, you had 3 carries and that saved you). Also, which lane were you in?

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Unscathed » January 16, 2015 9:23am | Report
not aiming for armor reduction ac was just an alternative to satanic because deso is an orb

i went safelane with wd he fed first blood we also kinda lost the lane a bit with ganks coming and wd feeding a bit but the real farm failure is post laning where i fed some deaths and delayed deso and then i resolved to go vlads into deso

we had a huge fight mid Song of the Siren strokes back lol then we start wrecking with feeding a couple of kills but after the 2nd rosh we gg push and gg


t'was a good game
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Hamstertamer » January 16, 2015 9:27am | Report
Okay so :

- Laning stage

Your farm kind of sucked. 30 last hits at 11 minutes is not very good. To be fair, it's not entirely your fault, your support Witch Doctor was, to be honest...useless. He was doing what a support should NEVER do which is stand behind his carry while he's getting harassed. On the other hand he should be all the times *in front* of his carry harassing enemy laners, or pulling, and he did neither.
Being stuck with a support who doesn't do jack in lane besides sap your XP happens to everyone. However, you were lucky to have one of the best laning heroes in the game which is Phantom Assassin, and I don't think you used her potential here. PA can solo offlane against a trilane and get ~45+ CS at 10 minutes simply by sitting back and sniping creeps with dagger. You should have done that WAY WAY more.
Like, if I was playing Spectre or something, I couldn't have done better than you in that lane, I would be screwed just like you were. But if I was playing PA in your place, I would have rushed an early Ring of Basilius and maybe even one or two clarities, and simply spammed dagger to get almost every CS, and I would have gotten about 55-60 CS at 10 minutes doing that.

Also...you needed a Magic Stick/ Magic Wand in lane. Against spammy heroes like Puck and ES, this item almost wins you the lane.
Also I'm not the best fan of Quelling Blade on PA, I'm much more in favor of early mana regen like basi and wand to have a dagger-spammy build on her for free CS but maybe that's just me.

- Item build

I love the hell out of the deso/Vlads PA and it's definitely a great build. Especially with those picks Vlads was a really good item. Only downside is...you have no HP. Against bursty heroes like Pudge/Puck/ES or even Riki, you need some sort of survivability so I would have gone treads over phase here. Just a minor detail but can save your life.

Also...carry Dust of Appearance. It's cheap. And you can't really carry the game unless you can solo kill Riki. He can't diffusal himself forever.

- Offlane Anti-Mage with 35 minute Battle Fury who buys a second Vlads

No comment, speaks for itself.

Otherwise well played.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Unscathed » January 16, 2015 9:36am | Report
Thanks hamster! I quote sucked as a carry tho (yes i thought of basi but i was like erhhhh also got quell since im bad at kast hitting)

Antimage went yasha into bf "faster" he says

Got no dust since my teammates got it lol

Also the riki is quite competent for actually using the purge

Again, thanks!
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Hamstertamer » January 16, 2015 9:48am | Report
People really need to understand that if you can't get battlefury before 15-20 minutes on Anti-creeps there is no point in getting this item at all. Just rush your manta seriously. Early manta + Mana Void = ez teamfight.

And against Riki you need to dust him twice since he can purge himself, a bit like Weaver. You never have enough dust.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Dimonychan » January 16, 2015 10:07am | Report
Hamstertamer wrote:

People really need to understand that if you can't get battlefury before 15-20 minutes on Anti-creeps there is no point in getting this item at all. Just rush your manta seriously. Early manta + Mana Void = ez teamfight.

And against Riki you need to dust him twice since he can purge himself, a bit like Weaver. You never have enough dust.

With 800 hp?

If you can't get BF before ~22 min, you have made a wrong hero choice and your team basically has a -1 hero, which is most likely will stay that way for entire game. Without Battle Fury you just can't make a comeback because you can't farm nearly as much as needed - Anti-Mage relies purely on overfarm, and to make a comeback, you have to really get A LOT of farm - which is impossible without BF.

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