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Balancing Phantom Assassin

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Blubbles » November 24, 2014 10:23am | Report
I think her ult should be a charged ability (Stone Remnant, Fire Remnant, Blink Strike, etc.)

Maybe a 6 second charge time. Max charges around 4. Then she would have to use her precious crits carefully, but could also do reliable huge burst damage with a lot of crits, without having to rely on chance. She'd have to farm with her dagger, or use her charges on them to secure a lot of farm. This would probably spawn another era of Battlefury PA's. Balanced? Overpowered? Underpowered?
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by MrLocket » November 24, 2014 10:27am | Report
Too OP, imagine you blink on a hero and crits 4 times with extra 130 attack speed from Phantom Strike. It's either too hard to farm or too OP on killing heroes if you want to make it charges-based ability.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by F.E.A.R.0 » November 24, 2014 11:13am | Report
I think not. Phantom Assassin is balanced and she's not a late game carry because every carry on your team will by Monkey King Bar and destroy her. The only way Phantom Assassin can win is if the enemy team is stupid enough not to buy Monkey King Bar also overfeeding her from the start. Her blink is countered by Black King Bar and Linken's Sphere (it's a bug with Linken's Sphere, it should not trigger it). So yeah she's balanced.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Timminatorr » November 24, 2014 11:14am | Report
Personally i think she is fine, she is just played a ****ton now.

She is actually a pretty good pub hero, and people are finally figuring out that BF dominator into basher sucks.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Sanvitch » November 24, 2014 11:40am | Report
What is the most common build (Good I hope?) on her right now. I've building her as like a Mid-game brawler with like Phase Boots into Drums of Endurance/ Ring of Aquila into Yasha into like Skull Basher, or other Mid-game fighter items (Armlet as well I think? I can't remember the last game I really played with her), and then transition into being a late-game right clicker with Abysal Blade, Black King Bar, Satanic and Manta Style (Not that's she a brilliant Manta hero, but I really like Yasha).

I assume there's a better build on her however.

OT; I disagree with making it a charge based skill. With Charges you can essentially jump onto the enemy carry and burst them down near instantly with Phantom Strike, given 4 continous crits should basically gib anyone around level 2. That can be devastaing by itself. Even in late-game, you pop BKB, jump in and basically just crit the enemy carry down, and let yours go to down.

It also severely gibs her farm if she's forced to trigger a charge every 6 seconds just because she wants to right click creeps for gold.

I think she's currently a balanced hero, given she's always very squishy despite her mass burst potential. (Unless you like build Like Satanic into Eye of Skadi as first items).

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Hamstertamer » November 24, 2014 12:00pm | Report
Well Battle Fury kind of fills the void of "I need an item that gives me +65 damage" I think. PA has horrible base damage and a skill that gives her tons of attack speed so it's normal to want damage items.

The only other option is Desolator which is actually amazing on her but the only problem is that it prevents her from getting Satanic which is one of her best late game items.

Seriously I just go Crystalys on her now after helm...so legit actually.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Seagull » November 24, 2014 12:35pm | Report
Hamstertamer wrote:

Well Battle Fury kind of fills the void of "I need an item that gives me +65 damage" I think. PA has horrible base damage and a skill that gives her tons of attack speed so it's normal to want damage items.

The only other option is Desolator which is actually amazing on her but the only problem is that it prevents her from getting Satanic which is one of her best late game items.

Seriously I just go Crystalys on her now after helm...so legit actually.

My build is Ring of Aquila > Power Treads/ Phase Boots > Black King Bar > Helm of the Dominator > Skull Basher> just about anything I need. I think she is best built with mid game items with utility instead of pure damage, as Coup de Grace deals so much damage and Blur works best in the mid-game as the enemy won't have their MKBs yet. I don't really like bfury on her unless you have the better late-game and the game is progressing really slowly.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by kkoopman3 » November 24, 2014 12:59pm | Report
If her ultimate crits were charges she could burst down a 30 kill pudge in 4 seconds! I don't see any way of making that work.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Unscathed » November 24, 2014 3:37pm | Report
I have never seen a Daedalus PA. It gave good damage and an extra crit. liek y not ppl?????
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by TheSofa » November 24, 2014 4:02pm | Report
I go Treads >> Drum >> Vlad's >> Mjollnir >> (Monkey King Bar) >> Abyssal Blade

Can anyone critique this please? It would be much appreciated.

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