Dota 2 Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse

Also not trying to start anything but; for future reference, you aren't the judge of your own rudeness. Simply put, if you hadn't been rude; which is in essence, an opinion, nobody would have said you need to be more nice. When you said you were being rude. You've no idea of how knowledgeable Samukobo or Peppo_oPaccio are on the subject. They may have simply chosen to keep their ideas simple and to the point.

Now, to end my rant I'll say something that regards the thread. :D I like the idea of new heroes and completing the Four Horsemen lore,but, it definitely needs to be after the other heroes have been finished. It would also be neat if their abilities complemented each other. I disagree about the hard carry thing. Why not make them each have a main role. ie. Hard carry, mid, support, initiator.

~Contractual

haha dude please read what you just wrote, it makes no sense.

"Conquest is replaced with Pestilence. Strife does share some resemblance to Conquest, as he depicts internal conflict, which by definition, is in close relation with Strife. Fury however, bears very little in common with her corresponding Horseman, Famine."

you just called conquest two different horsemen.
conquest is the idea of external conflict, to conquer by force.
it even says so in revelations.
pestilence is closer to famine then conquest.
there is no such horsemen as fury and i have no idea where you got that from.
and strife? ... where do you get these names.
oh actually wait, are you actually getting these names from the game darksiders?
hahahaha this all makes more sense now.

you are trying to argue with someone that has written their bachelors final essay on the "the differing interpretations of the Horseman within the Bible, the Tanakh and the Koran" while your getting your information from a game...

dude just take it else where. there is a whole thread for the discussion of new hero's.
and yes, you were being rude, but im done since im not continuing this conversation, since well.... darksiders hahaha

I was asking your point bro, not saying this suggestion is garbage. Sorry if I sounded offensive or anything :c

I don't think saying that the four horsemen theme is "the best suggestion" is accurate though. Dota unlike other games like smite doesn't have any definite theme, so basing the future heroes on the present heroes isn't exactly the best thing ever, and it's not very creative tbh.

And if we're talking lore here, Chaos Knight is based on one of the four fundamentals, if dota 1 lore was based on the bible for some heroes (I don't remember it being that way though) then I'm fairly sure it's not that way now.

Based on his lines, yes CK probably had some inspiration from the horsemen, but like people already said here, him summoning 3 of his Phantasms to make 4 horsemen is probably the whole biblical concept in one hero, except they chose the second horseman to represent that concept.

EDIT: I don't claim to know much about the bible, but this whole 4 horsemen thing, while having a point, is something that is based solely on your speculations.

fear was just thumped by theological scholars it seems... nice job! loved it!

Yeah I think that the other illusions that CK summons are probably meant to count as the other 3 horseman. Not sure if they would add more, especially considering the lore for the Dota 2 version of CK. He has very little relation to the actual horseman, and seems to be more related to a Planeswalker or universe jumper. He appears to be searching for something called "The Light" though, which could become a hero in the future?

The Light = Keeper of the Light

Okay, went to read his lore, I see now didn't realize. Thanks Porygon. In that case, that lore is already complete, so don't think we need the other 'horseman'. But just my opinion.

Dude, in popular belief, Conquest is replaced by Pestilence.Check your materials again.

Wulfstan im sorry dude but when you say "popular belief" what in fact are you referring too?
the extracts from Simon?
revelations?
but if in fact your are referring to anything post 1700's then yes your are correct.
in the contemporary culture of the time (and of now) conquest is replaced by pestilence.
even though the closest interpretation of "pestilence" as a rider, is death. Since most historical documentation, refers to death as "sowing plague" and in one description "and he rode upon a pale horse and the blackness followed in his wake, lo all who were touched without the seal of high were ridden with ;the; curse of pestilence". (and btw its not a pale horse they stuffed up the translation, its actually green but hey im going with the popular belief)
but in my interpretation(i.e. my opinion) not necessarily correct but backed by a lot of research.
Famine is closer to pestilence. here's a quick one.
the book of Matthew 24:7-13
"and famine, pestilence, earthquakes and lawlessness abounds' ' ' when the scales are set loose"
famine iconography is associated with scales.
loose but hey im just proving a point, i never said "in popular belief i was going off the direct origin quote sooo yea...

look dude im not religious in the least but when it comes to dota i will bow down to wulfstan in his incredible knowledge since i am a noob compared to you, that is serious btw much love to the wulf.
but when it comes to religion, 6 years of study means that ... i kinda know my **** so when you tell me to check my materials ... that hurts my feelings :(

i have no idea what everyone is talking about here....