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So many Terrorblade picks at ESL One. Is my waifu back in the meta?

Bloodthorn on Magnus. Sick new meta or sick new meta?

It's actually legit as hell. Bloodthorn active crits work like normal crits, they amplify cleave as well. So attacking the Bloodthorned target will give cleaving crits to whoever is attacking it (you or your allies).

Besides under Reverse Polarity enemies can't purge the active.

I love it because it makes DPS builds on Magnus finally legit. Before sure you could go MoM into crit on Mag after dagger but you had two issues : it didn't help your teammates, and you didn't have mana to use Refresher Orb.

Bloodthorn gives the mana to use refresher, gives you far more damage output than Daedalus during RP, and the active amplifies your teammates' cleave damage as well.

Why is it so easy for me to imagine Tera having a Terrorblade body pillow >>

I am not sure what you are talking about.
If you cleave, it means only you do cleaving damage, not your allies unless they have empower buff on them, which is quite difficult to put on all 5 unless you have sceptre.

I would prefer aghs any day because it is a straight up 50%damage increase plus a cleave/splash for range heroes25% splash in that case. Bloodthorn is a conditional crit on only 1 foe.

Except all your allies who need it have constantly the Empower buff on them, because you're a good Magnus so you constantly cast it on all the melee carries you have?
You don't need to put it on all 5. What's the point of casting it on your Crystal Maiden? Only the melee carries. In a typical game it's yourself + 2 others.

Aghs on Magnus is only good if you have *ranged* carries.

Situationally, you are correct but it didn't mean all your games will have cm support.
You might have an ogre support or a nyx support. How about omni or Oracle support? They would love the buff .

If you talk about use of empower on a total of 3 heroes, then you have a 150% damage increase and a 50% cleave. Compare this to a bloodthorn, it gives a damage increase of 100% if I include the bonus magic damage. This too on a single hero whereas a cleave damage increase to RP recipients of 17.5%

I think it's better to have an aghs, it's more like a perma active bloodthorn, that's 50% damage increase always to all of your team instead of you.

Plus your bloodthorn pick is even more situational on mag than a aghs pick. Not that I am rubbishing it, it does have uses that are obscure. Synergy with to is hardly a positive for a 7k plus item when you are comparing it to a 4k item

Aghs is a damage utility item on magnus, that's what I believe


Edit: I don't know about this but the aura also affects illusions I believe, so good luck empowering all TB illusionsthat already do a good damage only to be increased even more. I know this is a selectt case but I think I made my point. Aghs is as good as bloodthorn on magnus , if not believed to be better

Because it's the kind of stupid thing I'd do 'for the meme'.

A blow up life size TB doll in metamorphosis form is more likely. He might also have baleful hollow set on it as well.

He might practice some other things on it as well .

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They really wouldn't. Their right-clicks are still irrelevant. How do Ogre Magi or Omniknight's right clicks change anything?

You keep Empower up on any hero on which it's *relevant*. The others' damage doesn't even enter the calculation because it's negligible anyways.

(And how does Nyx have any synergy with right clicks in the first place? Empower does absolutely nothing to Vendetta damage so...)



Why do you compare the damage increase from Empower and Bloodthorn? My whole point is that you have both.




Are you talking about the typical scrub team with 5 carries? I mean, that's the only case where you'd need to have Empower permanently up on every single teammate.

In a normal team however, you're just casting Empower on your melee carries and not on your supports or utility heroes.

Also, technically you can keep up Empower on 5 people at a time. Cooldown was buffed in 6.85.




It doesn't add damage over casting Empower on your teammates if you only have melee carries.
It only adds damage if you have ranged carries.

I'd buy Aghs if I have ranged carries in my team. Or maybe if I have ******ed picks with 4+ carries. But that's really it. The item is niche as hell.

I honestly don't understand why you have an issue with manually casting Empower on teammates. That's how Magnus always worked.




Auras never affect illusions.

Surely you'd cast Empower on an Omniknight team mate so he can farm faster? Not ahead of your cores, because even if you have ranged cores you still prioritise them, but if I had support Omni and already had my blink, I'd give him the Empower since it's an Omni.

DOTAFire should have put a TI open qualifier team together with the most cheesy of the cheese strats we could think of prepared in the hope we ran into EG or Secret (Depending on which qualifier we went into). Imagine the feeling of knocking the reigning TI champions out in the Open qualifier.