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Okay, so I just played Faceless Void for the first time since the change (6.86). Yes, I'm late, and I know that. Anyway, since I'm aware that most people play him as initiator/tank because of the change on Time Walk, I tried to play him that way.
I just went with the aghs straight after dagger because of how much of an one-sided game it was, instead of going Blade Mail. I thought aghs would be great on him, but... it's honestly really underwhelming. That's when I thought: "heyyy, Octarine Core should be amazing on this guy!"
4.5 seconds Time Walk. Consider that you use Time Walk every time it's off cooldown, and you receive the same amount of damage every second, you'll receive 33% EHP increase (2 seconds out of 6). With octarine, you'll receive 44% EHP increase (2 seconds out of 4.5).
Blade Mail compatibility. Reduces Blade Mail cooldown from 13 to 9.75 seconds, reducing downtime from 8.5 seconds to 5.25 seconds, and increases EHP further by 25% due to pure damage reflect absorption.
Seriously, it's just way too amazing to be passed on, at least on paper. I know that it's expensive, which is probably why a third position rarely buy it, but if you do get the opportunity isn't this item really effective on him?
It's 5900 gold... you coulda bought a Refresher or something like that.
I mean, it's good after Blink Aghs Refresher if you're the initiator... you're going to deal no damage.
Yeah I know, but I'm saying that I find octarine better than aghs, considering that the cooldown reduction is only 15 seconds different, and other than that aghs only give an extra 1 seconds of chrono, while octarine offers way more. Arguably, it's also better than Refresher because of the reason I stated, at least for a tank/initiator style of gameplay.
I agree, but do you really want to play faceless void as a tank? Because from the way I see it, PV is an annoying offlaner that can't fully be zoned out and can provide initiation to his team.
You can't directly compare a 4200 gold item and a 5900 gold item. Aghs comes online much sooner than octarine and has an infinitely better buildup.
If you pick offlane Void, you expect your team to has damage in Chronosphere to win teamfights in the mid game. At that point, you can't afford octarine, that's why you go aghs which costs less gold and doesn't require you to be level 16.
And by the time you have aghs, octarine becomes pretty much useless because you already have a chrono every minute.
Octarine isn't terrible on Void, but there's still no place for it in his build.
And if you start defending a blink/octarine/blademail/radiance/refresher/whatever build on void, you're getting dangerously close to the "should have picked Enigma" territory. The whole point of #3 Void is that he doesn't need a lot of farm, and if you build this on a #1 Void you literally lost your team the game just by doing that. Besides, he can't farm anyways, so 20K gold builds don't work on this hero.
Maybe combine it with this Vanguard, Radiance build?
From there on you could go for either Blademail or straight Octarine Core and annoy the **** out of the enemy and never die?
I mean it sounds good on paper but there are probably some porblems with this as well.
Sounds funny though.
What if Time Lock lifesteal from octarine ? it deals magic damage after all
Aside from that, Octarine makes Time Dilation spammable, which is cool, because the enemy lina will be forever on CD and slow lock
and then it fills his concept, he is the time guy, it make sense buy a item that reduce the time of your CD
Yeah, I agree that most of the time void doesn't have the space for it in his build. I'm just suggesting the possibility of it as an alternative to his normal build, proposing a build that goes something like:
I'm saying that a void doesn't really need any item other than dagger and bm, so if the game somehow goes swimmingly, I'm saying that Octarine Core is better than Aghanim's Scepter or Refresher Orb, and by that I mean skip aghs altogether, opting for the harder build-up octarine when situation permit.
But well, if the situation's like that probably the game's as good as won already.
It might work if you have a position 4 Bounty Hunter tho, with the track money and all.
Oh, by the way, yeah, it does lifesteal from Time Lock (although it's not that useful), and the Time Dilation only has 1.5 seconds downtime. Pretty cool lol
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