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For teamfights, there is a skill tradeoff between smoke and blink. Smoke at max level has crazy synergy with his ulti. If you rush diffusal and do the smoke diffusal ulti combo fast enoigh you can pull off all attacks on atleqst that hero. And then add some stabs at the poor souls caught in smoke.

Whats more, the more you catch in ulti radius the better! Sometimes that skill can act as an escape from some specific ultis as well(think doppelganger).

Now if you are going teamfight buil on riki, go get yourself a desolator or a maelstrom and witness the carnage that chain lightning doles out on your opponents. You catch 3 or more , you definitely get some Chain lightning procs. Maelstrom advances your fight potential also. You also lifesteal from the ulti, so imagine using a satanic with this.

I consider atleast one out of deso or maelstrom the second core after diffusal.
Careful though! You are squishy as heck. One blunder can get your *** handed to you.

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Terathiel you need to calm down. You have been given enuf. You need to let your fellow members worship the holy realm.
Are yiu not happy with invoker?

Still absolutely not a fan of proc items over AGI items on Riki. Agi items still scale infinitely better on that hero. The whole point of AOE backstab is that it's a ******* backstab. Double damage is always better than some item proc. The only proc item that finally became viable on Riki is Divine Rapier XD

By the way I read in the tooltip that the bonus damage from backstab goes through evasion now. Is that new? I don't remember it working like this. Why is there MKB recommended in riki guides anyways then, no point ever buying it.

Riki going butterfly gives 30 backstab damage increase. Whereas maelstrom gives 24 damage and 120 chain lightning damage. I am not factoring magic and armor reduction, but you can see here that maelstrom has good synergy with him.

I dont disagree that the whole concept here is maximizing backstab but at some point, it has diminishing returns. He already has around 130 base damage at max level and if you increase it further to +30 you get 320 total damage. If you went maelstrom you get 284 damage and a decent chance to proc maelstrom that will factor everyone you hit. You can proc independently for everyone caught in your ulti and then the damage overlaps. Thats the synergy!

Seriously, try it. You will like it. His base damage is irrelevant in the decision making if going agi ormaelstrom becausethat base damage will proc anyways!

Apparently the Frog has some mathematical disjunctions. This explains the wonky balance that some might notice sometimes in this wonderful game : he's just too great to do math :)

30 agility = +30 base attack damage PLUS + 30*1.25 = 37.5 bonus attack damage

So 30 agility = +67.5 damage in total on a backstab.

And that's just the agility part. If you add the raw damage part of Butterfly you get +97.5 damage.

While Mjollnir = 24 attack damage plus 150 lightning damage with 1/4 chance so 37.5 magic damage in average.

I told you that base damage is irrelevant.
I did 130+30 agi from butterfly to arrive at 320 backstab damage. Thats before the patch obviously.

Now i explained maelstrom which is 2000 gold cheaper gives a significant increase to damage.
Probability is applied to a long succession of events. What you are applying is empirical. Ever heard of priming?

For the cost of butterfly plus some short change , you can have a diffusal and a maelstrom.
Hamster, you need to go out there and have a game with maelstrom. Tell me once you have played it. I will definitely consider what your views are and accept what you have to say.
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What about magic reductiin late game vs physical damage its 25 vs 50 percent on average.

What i did to envision this item equipment was try it with some axe bots. A riki with maelstrom managed to kill axes at lvl25 during his lvl3 ult whereas a riki with butterfly did not. I am talking about no items just lvl25. Riki was ofcourse having maelstrom, diffusal and deso. And butterfly deso diffusal in another case. Or maybe i was too lucky.

You know riki is just that one hero, how hard they change him, people will still say he is a noob hero.

I actually liked the fact that Riki was that one hero that is unplayable in the pro scene but is the tir 1 pick in the lower mmr bracket.


Something else, I have this feeling that Invoker is an incredible hero this days with invoke level 1 your laning presence is way better now.

Also I think that Troll Warlord is a big hero now with the Fervor buff he gained alot of dps.

The veng aghs is really good because a veng dies almost always during the initiating.

I have played against a silencer today and his first skill is really strong. Also now you can get skadi which is an amazing item on the hero if you play him mid.

The Magnus aghs looks really nasty when combined with a hero like Terrorblade which is a hard hitting ranged hero.

I don't like the new Time Walk I think it is good on an oflane void but as a carry it's pretty bad because it has only 550 range. Now you need to get a [blink dagger]] which delays other items.

Also for supports what you can do against magical damage is, you build arcane boot than you get a Glimmer Cape you disassemble the arcanes and get a Aether Lens Than you have alot of magic resistance, mana and hp regen. I did this on Witch Doctor and it was pretty good. You can also do it on Crystal Maiden maybe because crystal maiden has a small manapool.

Probably Morphling is playable again with the new items and the buffs he got.

Just Realized that Void is broken as all hell now. Id take the new skills over old any time any situation. Avoiding the last two seconds of damage every 6 seconds... holy ****.

My first game with new void:

I Love the Smell of a Rapier in the Morning

Invoker's lane is beyond ridiculous. It was damn close to it before, but... 100 damage at level 2. I mean, really. You literally cannot beat the guy in CS if he goes QE and even if he doesn't, well, he's 'only' got 80 damage at level 2. With the amount the hero can do now ( Aether Lens is pretty good on him), he is at an absurd level of power. He's the 6.86 Shadow Fiend, mark my words (they're the last you'll hear elegiggle).

Seriously, broken af. I know who I'm instapicking in ranked now.

Void lost his backtrack and the slow on Time Walk though. That's a huge deal. I love the new Void concept and it's way better than the ond one, but I'm still not completely sure that he's stronger/viable now. Also...550 range FailFish.

Time Dilation can be great but you need to time it after the teamfight has already broken out, and before you lose it. Can be tricky. It is a mini Chronosphere on a 16 second cooldown though so can't complain too much, the skill is solid.



Yup. I think Icefraud should have learned by now. There are heroes that you just DO NOT buff.

You didn't even mention the biggest buff. He gets a completely free free level of XP, and he no longer needs level 17, only level 16.

Like, Invoker was already insane in lane. But now, he can just spam the hell out of Forge Spirit, send them to the jungle and get SF level of farm. The 4/0/4 max spirits build is viable again btw.

And he no longer needs level 17, so you can't even say he's very level dependent now. He comes online extremely early.

Aether Lens feels like an underpowered Blink Dagger on him however. Like on a lot of heroes. I still see no reason to divert from the cookie cutter brown boots into dagger into aghs.

But yeah, seriously Invoker first pick material definitely. What even deals with him?
Doom is trash right now
Heroes like TA or OD are probably down to ez mid ez life right now. OD not stealing INT? What a joke, and they said he was buffed Kappa.
Silence? buy lotus orb win game.
Only matchup I see him potentially lose is WR. Only the Frog can beat the Frog. Or get camped mid by a Mirana or ES.

I honestly feel that just like SF he's simply good against everything.

So is new Invoker all about QE and Alacrity lvl 2? Or is there something else?