Questions regarding support heroes

A good Position 5 should be quite effective early on with minimal Exp and Farm, just look at the impact abilities like Fissure, Chilling Touch and Sacrifice can have at lvl1.

This doesn't mean that you should play them and give up on finding any Farm completely, because any Hero that's 10 levels behind with 0 Items is going to be very, very useless, no matter how good of a Hard Support they are.

Case in point ^ these Heroes don't need Items to be effective but they do benefit from Farm, e.g. Blink Dagger + Aghanim's Scepter on Rubick, you should always be aiming to get a 2k Gold Item on your Hard Support by 20:00 where possible, usually Blink Dagger, Force Staff, Ghost Scepter or Eul's Scepter of Divinity

You should always try to make use of their Abilities to create a bit of Space and Farm for yourself as well as the rest of your Team. For example, I rarely see Lion players using a 4-1-3-1 build to Jungle. It's slow, but Earth Spike + Mana Drain is a good way to Farm your Blink Dagger if you aren't Snowballing into it.


Pls, Kody...go home, you're drunk. 8{3

Never seen wr go bkb before aghs and a damage item

I would say the best "**** items" hero is Vengeful Spirit. With only a Boots of Speed and a Ring of Aquila she can be effective until the late game, if played correctly - everything in her is meant for her death not to be costly in terms of items. Of course if you can put a Blink Dagger in it... the merrier.

It's so awesome if you get aghs blink though, 10 second swap and blink = a lot of fun :p

But yeah, she doesn't need much to be effective.

Bunkansee, 10 second swap and blink = trap all of the enemy team in those high places :D

Exactly, also nobody even has a chance of escaping you and your team, it's just so awesome :3

Pretty sure that with Pudge Hook and Venge Swap, if you go up onto a cliff they get free pathing for 5s so you cant just ditch people up there.

HOLY JESUS HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN HERE

Calm yer titses Terath. Sometimes people forget to read teh patch noteses

Why is terathiel mad?