Two Changelog ideas

1. Bottle fills up to 2 or 3 charges when using shrines
2. You can rearrange your talents once you reach level 25 upon paying some gold penalty or respawn time penalty.

Tell me what you think and how these can be made viable in the game, should i think of implementing them. Your thoughts reflections and any additional changes you might wanna see in the game are welcome here

No.

Nope indeed Mr. Froggy

NO specially for the second one, that way heroes with mind blowing lvl 25 talents like Lion screw the whole game

You aren't making sense here. I didn't understand how it is connected with having an awesome level 25 upgrade.

Let me give you an example

Suppose you went +mana regeneration instead of attack speed or armor as a talent choice. Now you reach level 25 but you realize that you are gradually falling off and would have done better if you had went the other talent. you pay in gold or respawn time penalty to choose your talent tree again so that you can learn talents according to the late game situation.

This example is that of sniper. You can make a comparison with techies omniknight terrorblade naga siren supports that want to transition to cores like venge.

I am not saying pay gold or respawn time penalty to reach level 25.

What astute use of your mental faculties. Could you please elaborate?

So the ice witch is a yes woman.

Pity.

No need to degenerate into attacks on people.

The reason I'd disagree with letting people re-arrange their talents at the end is because many decisions on skill tree throughout the game are based on a trade off between "I need this now" and "I'm confident we'll do well enough I can think longer term".

For example, you take say +20% xp gain if you're confident the game has time to play out, and you don't need say +2 mana regen right now.

If you let people swap everything at the end, these choices become much less relevant. There's also the whole thing of "would you still be level 25 and able to swap out if you hadn't chosen the +20% xp gain? Would you then lose the xp you gained with it?".

Uhhh.

Ice witch is crystal maiden. It's a reference from the winter wyvern comic!

Twas not an attack so much as a request to please speak up like you did.

FYI, you won't lose exp afterwards. That's a wonderful flow you started here. But you would notice that most of exp talents belong to supports. I guess a support would do well to take such a talent and then trade it once it reached level 25. That was the inception of the idea!


Also me Gandalf, how would you say the use of shrine refilling two bottle charges suit you?

Yeah let's take a good talent with one serious downside and then just remove that downside because why not.