Jugg Question...

I've been fooling around with a Jugg build for awhile and finally want to ask every ones opinions on it.

I start with an Aquila rush for pure stats and armor. Followed by plain boots.

Then go for Perseverance to cover health and mana issues.

My first big item would depend on how the game is going. Either Blink Dagger if I'm farming and ganking well. Or slowly build aghs if I'm not. Once one is done, I'll go for the other.

Finally, I'd go back to the perseverance. By now it's usually 20-25 minutes in. I usually go Battle Fury to fully wreck team fights yet would go Linkens if they have someone who is a heavy hitter and I need magical protection from them.

So Aquila (Cheap armor and stats) [Sold for space later on]
Boots (never find need to upgrade)
Perseverance (health and Mana issue fix)
Blink (initiation/ganking tool)
Aghs (More bounces, shorter cooldown, stats)
BF or Linkens (quicker farm, more ult team damage) (magic defense)

Luxury

Butterfly (evade and stats)
BoTs (no more tp scroll)
AC (Armor and armor negation)

Have had off and on success with it. Mostly due to the outside variables such as my team and the other team.

If you just want a quick fix to your mana issues Soul Ring is better than Perseverance.

Battle Fury is indeed a good teamfight item for Jugg but it's best to rush it if you want to get it.

Just like all these heroes with a heal, like Bane, Oracle etc, there is no need for a dedicated mana regen item because soul ring takes care of most of it.

ok first off, NEVER EVER GO PERSEVERANCE. its a terrible item for its cost and even the items that you can build from it are very situational or only picked up on a few heroes. (BF on AM + ember, linkens isnt core anytime, bloodstone is good on timber and situational on a few heroes like storm and necro.)
if you want the regen you get a soul ring, it gives much more regen for much less gold.

honestly even arcane boots would be better since you have infinate health regen anyway. if you dont you are not maxing healing ward, in which case, BE VERY ASHAMED.

aquila, sure, i find that i dont really need it since my early laning damage comes from phase boots.

blink, sure but dont get it if you are the 1 position carry.

aghs, yes, jugger is all about pushing and dodging spells in the teamfight, you dont need to build early rightclick and an aghs will always give you more damage.

battlefury, **** no never, terrible damage, terrible in lategame since it lacks all of the utility.

linkens, the stats it gives are AWEFULL for its cost, so only get it if you are getting disabled by a bane/doom/beast/bat before you get your ultimate off.

butterfly, yes, you can already dodge magic damage and controll and a butterfly can make you really hard to kill.

AC, if your team needs it, its good if you are pushing as 5 a lot. its kind of like a butterfly, and its better against elder titan.


the most important item that you forgot, abyssal blade, this item is just so insanely good in lategame, the damage is good and the instant stun through BKB is just amazing.

drums is also good for early stats and some HP, since you are pretty squishy.

BKB is also good situationally.


my build would mostly be: phase>drums>aghanims>damage/attack speed.

if the game is slow and more farm oriented get a maelstrom and turn it into mjollnir later, never get the battlefury, it has no place on him. he is not ember spirit.

^Pretty much sums it up for Juggernaut

Here's an unconventional build

PMS/Soul ring treads drums SnY/Aghs. Then you can go for luxuries

Skill build would be 2 -3-0-1.
Head into offlane and try to survive using blade fury defensively, heal using healing ward. No mana issues whatsoever because of soul ring covers cost of healing ward.
After level 6 you can go for ganking. Improvise thereafter.

This turns jugger into a semi decent offlaner and forces you to foght early if you want to be useful. It makes you see jugger in a new light. Try it you will like it.

Play jugg as a snowball carry, don't play it as a farming carry. Play it as you were playing night stalker/bara, keep ganking and pushing, don't waste the 1300 magic damage potential.

I usually farm while Omni is down. Then when it's up, I go for pushes/ganks.

Also, don't underestimate BF. I've gotten a lot of Omni multikills due to its pairing with Aghs. My best so far has been a Quadra kill.

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You can even play him as a Roamer, like Mirana or Pudge, but it can be difficult to pull off.

Dont OVERestimate ommnislash. I tested it in a private lobby and the cleave it gives in hie ult is ****. Plz stop getting it, you will only lose more matches because of it.

Compare it to sleight of fist, improves his farming speed much less then on ember. Doesnt do 1000 damage crits because the jumps arent normal attacks, hits much less units so cleave is much less.

And last but certainly not least: THE SLASHES DONT CLEAVE SINCE THEY ARENT EVEN ATTACKS, ONLY THE ATTACKS BETWEEN SLASHES DO.

So to be really blunt, no you are wrong so stop building battlefury and your winrate will be better and yourr teammates have to facepalm less.

Battle Fury is a bad item on Juggernaut. Even if it does improve his farming speed and gives him mana and HP regen it's still bad to build it on him. If you want to do something with Juggernaut is to get items like Desolator, Assault Cuirass, Abyssal Blade, Butterfly, Mjollnir. Since Juggernaut can use items during Omnislash, this is the best suggestion and if your asking why Desolator and Assault Cuirass, it's the only way to deal damage to the enemy with Omnislash since Juggernaut's attacks are no way related to the jump slashes. Juggernaut can make own attacks during Omnislash but you will need high IAS and the chances are little.