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Dumb Question S02EP08: Overgrowth vs Ravage

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Unscathed » September 13, 2014 4:35pm | Report
Which is better? Here is a link for you smart peoples to research:
Overgrowth
Ravage


Overgrowth
-Affects magic immune, but being magic immune dispells this
-Longer duration
-Shorter Cooldown


Ravage
-Is blocked by magic immunity
-Larger radius
-Deals damage



I'm on Overgrowth's side. But even if it is better than Ravage, why did I never saw a clutch Overgrowth at fights?

Still, who am I to say that Overgrowth is better?


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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Wulfstan » September 14, 2014 7:43am | Report
Neither is better. Both are good at the same time.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by TheSofa » September 14, 2014 7:44am | Report
Overgrowth is a root, Ravage is a stun.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Unscathed » September 14, 2014 8:18am | Report
@ Wulfstan
I see. But then, why is Treant Protector less popular than Tidehunter?

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I know that, duh! But i dont see much difference.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Xyrus » September 14, 2014 8:21am | Report
Overgrowth has a longer duration, goes through Magic Immunity and has less than half the Cooldown time, but it can be Purged so isn't as big of a theat, whereas once you're Ravaged, you just got Tentacle'd! >8{D
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Timminatorr » September 14, 2014 8:23am | Report
Unscathed wrote:

@ Wulfstan
I see. But then, why is Treant Protector less popular than Tidehunter?

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I know that, duh! But i dont see much difference.

treant is a support, while tidehunter isnt really a good support, he needs to many levels and really needs a refresher at a certain point.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Unscathed » September 14, 2014 8:24am | Report
Timminatorr wrote:


treant is a support, while tidehunter isnt really a good support, he needs to many levels and really needs a refresher at a certain point.

So people picked Tidehunter because he can sap EXP better?
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Sanvitch » September 14, 2014 8:39am | Report
Unscathed wrote:


So people picked Tidehunter because he can sap EXP better?


No, he gets picked due to fact he's really good as an offlaner, because he's got a catch-up mechanism. Thanks to the changes to Anchor Smash, he can use it with Kraken Shell to farm a 4 stack of Ancients. Which coupled with his inate tank, lets him thrive in an offlane position. And get a quick Blink Dagger which increases the power of Ravage in team-fights.

Whereas Treant Protector as a support gets less gold, so a slow Blink Dagger (Which means people get time to farm BKB. And since becoming magic immune after Overgrowth is used breaks the hold, it's a relevent thing), and he relies a lot on early rotations for kills in order to get to his items quickly.

Plus the changes to Leech Seed I think made him drop out, coupled with the meta making Living Armor slightly less powerful due to heavier pushing.

Overgrowth is still a really good spell, but it's a smaller portion of [Treant Protector]]s impact in a game that Ravage tends to be for Tidehunter. After all, all of Treant abilities are really good.

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Sanvitch wrote:



No, he gets picked due to fact he's really good as an offlaner, because he's got a catch-up mechanism. Thanks to the changes to Anchor Smash, he can use it with Kraken Shell to farm a 4 stack of Ancients. Which coupled with his inate tank, lets him thrive in an offlane position. And get a quick Blink Dagger which increases the power of Ravage in team-fights.

Whereas Treant Protector as a support gets less gold, so a slow Blink Dagger (Which means people get time to farm BKB. And since becoming magic immune after Overgrowth is used breaks the hold, it's a relevent thing), and he relies a lot on early rotations for kills in order to get to his items quickly.

Plus the changes to Leech Seed I think made him drop out, coupled with the meta making Living Armor slightly less powerful due to heavier pushing.

Overgrowth is still a really good spell, but it's a smaller portion of [Treant Protector]]s impact in a game that Ravage tends to be for Tidehunter. After all, all of Treant abilities are really good.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by TheSofa » September 14, 2014 9:08am | Report
Unscathed wrote:

@ Wulfstan
I see. But then, why is Treant Protector less popular than Tidehunter?

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I know that, duh! But i dont see much difference.

Since when did my name change?

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