guys please help

http://dotabuff.com/matches/533907209

i know i didnt do well but..is this solely my mistake? i mean i cant run against this lineup can i?moreover they always had a gem.
this *** KoTl keeps telling me im a noob. im feeling very bad right now :'(

You should've picked up a Scythe of Vyse after the Shadow Blade, but overall I think your team is fine (except for Mirana not having a Black King Bar): the enemy team has a Silencer that rushed an Agh's and a Viper with little farm and poor survivability, plus they basically had no supports. I don't have enough time to watch the replay, but if you managed to take all the towers in a reasonable amount of time, your teammates are the ones to blame as they didn't get through the tier 3 with a big gold advantage. If you just didn't push effectively, well you have to practice more with Nature's Prophet.

i get that.i'm gonna play furio nevery game :D

the thing is,they had gem for majority of the game. and that silence.and we had an un-co-operative team.

Sometimes you can just get a Force Staff or rush a Necronomicon, then go back sending your creep army to damage the tower. The Force Staff can also make you land some weird Sprouts from a disance that can really annoy an enemy carry. :D

I generally try to stay away from a Shadow Blade unless the enemy has no AoE stuns, in which case I can run away when invisible and, if things go wrong, just Sprout myself and teleport away. Otherwise, I get a Vyse and hex the enemy that is following me (or the one that can stun me while Sprouted); I still pick something like a Force Staff or a Necronomicon first though.

As for Silencer, I think the SB is actually a pretty good counter to him. He shouldn't bother you that much anyway as, if he uses his ulti in teamfights, you should be split pushing another lane.

I can't exactly help with what you did wrong, all I can say is that don't listen to that KotL as he was stat wise, worse than you in at the end of the game with imo should've been a higher level and had more assists. On a side note in my own theory; you could have caused serious push issues with KotL due to his tp'ing spell which means jumping around the map creating armies of treants. but the KotL doesn't sound like he cared. all i can say is I am sorry.

With regards to the Gem of Truesight, you should always assume the other Team has some way of detecting you, so I'm not sure if Shadow Blade was worth it this game, especially since you had a Mirana and a Weaver (I'd usualy count Kunkka, but I think he realised a Shadow Blade would be heavily countered this game.). As Peppo said, a Force Staff would have been better here.

Due to the Silence, it would be best to carry a Town Portal Scroll at all times too...although you had Travel Boots so I guess you did <}3

As for the KoTL, looking at his items, he only had room for a TP Scroll, so I doubt this guy even bothered warding after a while...besides...why even pick KoTL in this game?

I have just watched the replay of your game.

In-game times only and differ by 3 seconds.

(#0.5)
If you want to get a fast Hand of Midas you can start off with a Glove of Haste and 2x Clarity instead of a Ring of Basilius.

(#0.75)
Get better at last-hitting creeps/towers/etc. You loose a lot of gold if you are missing last-hits on creeps while pushing lanes (alone).


#1
Try to micro your Treants more often while farming in the jungle. If a Treant is at low HP you can pull him out of range of the enemy creeps and start attacking again. This way you maintain your DPS.

#2
@8:00 min you take over the mid-lane. Try not to push the lane by auto-attacking. Otherwise your mid-laner gets angry :p



#3
Try to look around the map more often. Check enemies items, look what runes have spawned, enemy movements, what level the enemy heroes are, etc. If a teammate needs help (e.g. killing enemy), then teleport there. Overall improve your map awareness; i.e. just don't sit there and look your Treants kill stuff.

#4
@8:37 min you teleport for cliff-jungling. In my opinion this slows your farming overall. Why not teleport near a camp and farm with Treants.



#5
Do not use your Wrath of Nature to farm early in the game. @10:17 min you killed creeps with your ultimate, resulting in stealing creeps from your teammate Mirana and Kunkka and pushing their lane.

#6
@12:13 min you should have used your Hand of Midas on a neutral creep.



#7
Your teleport @13:42 min into the enemey jungle was quite risky. You did not know where the enemy heroes were and still tried to farm their jungle. If the enemy had vision on you or were farming the jungle themselves you would have died.

#8
@14:50 min you killed neutral creeps in the enemy jungle while your team was pushing the tier 2 tower on the top lane. Help them next time with your Treants



#9
@16:45 min you bought a Town Portal Scroll to teleport home. Why not kill the nearest neutral camp and let your Teleportation skill off cooldown and teleport for free and earn money instead.

#10
@17:23 min you get attacked by a lone Spectre. She starts it by using Spectral Dagger, note that it takes 16 seconds until it comes off cooldown and she can move over trees, cliffs etc. @17:27 min you casted Sprout on her which is ineffective due to Spectral Dagger. But because your Teleportation was on cooldown, you cannot escape from her. Your teammate Keeper of the Light tried to use Recall on you, but Spectre attacked you, so it was no help.

If you get into this situation again: After her buff Spectral Dagger expires you can cast Sprout on yourself and try to teleport away.


#11
When you buy your Powertreads you switched them to Agility. I would recommend to switch them to Intelligence as it is your main attribute. If you need HP regen, switch them to Strength.

#12
@18:27 you teleport to your jungle. Use Teleportation to get to your top lane as it was getting pushed by the enemy creep wave and counter-push. You can earn more EXP and gold there instead in the jungle. Another option would be the bot lane, where your teammate Mirana starts pushing the tier 3 tower. Just use Nature's Call and send them to attack the tower.


#13
@19:20, instead of running onto the river, you could have turned around immediately as your teammate Kunkka tries to help you with a lone Spectre.
@19:37 using Sprout does nothing in this situation as Spectre was under the effect of X Marks the Spot.

#14
Spectre is dead.
@20:04 you start farming creeps in the enemy jungle whereas your team is trying to push into the enemy base. You could have either teleported onto the bot lane and start pushing their tier 3 tower which was at 50% HP or push the top lane, so that all lanes were pushed. You had vision on the enemy heroes due to your teammate Weaver.



#15
@20:24 you teleport home to regenerate HP and get items. You can also go on pushing lanes, switch your Power Treads to Strength in order to get a higher HP regeneration rate and farm EXP and gold while regenerating. Also using your courier to get your items from your stash is advisable. Also instead of going for a Crystalis I would recommend Scythe of Vyse which is better against their lineup. You can disable a carry like Spectre for 3.5 seconds.

#16
@21:15 you tried to juke Spectre which is not wise when she has the Spectral Dagger buff. Try to run away and let Keeper of the Light use Recall on you. Well, in this situation you are actually dead for sure because you cannot disable Spectre for a long time and Recall has a quite long delay due to Keeper of the Light being level 10 and thus no level 2 Spirit Form.


#17
Try to look at enemy heroes and your own teammate's items. That way you can check where you currently status is and where you stand in the game. Especially if you are dead and cannot do anything else.

#18
If teamfights arises like @23:18 min check your teammates status and the fight overall. Then you need to consider whether to help them or to push lanes. And do not farm your jungle if you can push lanes to pressure the enemies more.


#19
@23:48 min you can use Sprout and Nature's Call together in order to spawn Treants to push the tower/barracks. Three enemies were dead Viper + Bristleback cannot defend a 5-man push by your team.

#20
@24:44 min you teleported back. In this situation (three enemies are dead for 20 seconds, just Chen and Bristleback are alive. Your teammate Mirana is pushing the middle baracks) you can push their toplane, instead you kill creeps in their jungle and teleport home. Yes you are at low HP, in this case you can cast Nature's Call and let them work for you.

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Status:
@25:00 min
- All outer enemy towers are destroyed.
- Your team still has all towers intact
- Middle tier 3 tower is destroyed
- Middle baracks are getting destroyed by your team
- Your team has a ~ 27,000 gold lead
- Your team has a ~ 24,000 EXP lead
- Your teammate Kunkka is 19/1/2 and is level 19 while the enemies highest hero level is 11.
- If this would be a highly competitive pro-match, you statistically have a 100% win [http://www.datdota.com/win_expectancy.php]

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#21
@25:24
you did not use Sprout in order to trap Viper and kill him. A better advise would be to run north and get the hell out of there. Your team was spread out and were retreating. You got greedy and died. :-(

#22
Do not attack enemies while they have Blademail active. You kill yourself.


#23
@27:35 min you teleported into the enemy team. Yes, I know you were trying to help your Mirana, but do not just teleport into a 5-man enemy team. You can only Sprout people and hit them or try to block with your Treants. But a lone Nature's Prophet is just food for the enemy team. Also, you should've known that Mirana has Leap + Manta Style and Phase Boots. The enemy team just has slows and cannot stun her, so she was doing fine. Also Manta Style can remove debuffs like slows from Spectral Dagger.

#24
@28:37, good work! You are doing a split push on the top lane. Try to use Nature's Call in every push.


#26
@30:10, you know that the enemy has to defend your push at the top lane, why not use Teleportation onto the bot lane and push there in order to keep pressure onto the enemies team.



#27
ALWAYS check the cooldown of your Hand of Midas

#28
A very late Shadow Blade actually does not help you because the enemy team is already buying Sentry Wards, Gem and Dust due to a Shadow Blade on Kunkka, Moonlight Shadow, and having a Weaver as a teammate. Altough this saved your life @ ~44:50 min due to Chen having the gem and not Spectre or Bristleback (tankiest on their team and highly mobile); miss-communication on their team.


#29
Why teleport home? You could have pushed lanes or destroy the rax with your teammates :-(

#30
@47:08 min, instead of teleporting bot lane you should have gone top as this lane was already pushed and you could have damaged the tier 3 tower there. You instead chose to "defend" the bot lane, but this was not heavily pushed by the enemy and you could have gone there after your top lane push.


#31
@49:42 min, three of your teammates died near Roshan pit, Spectre already used his Haunt and therefore cannot kill you, you were top lane near the enemies tower. Just push it to force teleportations/defending ressources from the enemy and put pressure. You do not want to let them push your lanes.

#32
This is a critical moment. The enemy has the Aegis of the Immortal and you need to defend your middle lane (tier 2 is falling quickly and tier 3 base tower is getting pushed).
You are standing at the sideshop bot lane and you know that Spectre has just used Haunt to get a kill on Kunkka mid-lane.
Your top-lane and bot-lane is fairly pushed against the enemy team. In this situation they can only defend by teleporting back to their base. You can try to put more pressure on either of these lanes by teleporting there and pushing their barracks/towers. If you would click on all enemy heroes, you would know that no one of them is carrying a TP scroll.

The other decision would be to try to defend your tier 3 base tower by teleporting to your teammates.


#33
@57:45 min you died by trying to kill Bristleback who at that moment has a hell lot of armor and HP + being level 25. Also you were alone in their base. Just retreat back and push another lane, so you force them to defend. And you bought back for that :-( i.e. you are not on the field for a long time now.

#34
We are 60:51 min in and you are still jungling. You do not need more gold or EXP, you need to win this game as fast as possible or else the enemy team does.


#35
@61:40 min you try to snipe the enemy bottom barracks, good try. Next time, focus the range barracks as they have lower HP than melee barracks and it was already damaged. As you run away, you somehow try to look what items they got. In this situation you need to click at the bottom of the bot-lane, so you are still retreating while checking their items or whatever you wanted to do :-)

#36
@64:11 min, why do you attack minor buildings? Attack their THRONE and win!



#37
@64:14
you hear the sound from Haunt and do not react to it by turning your Shadow Blade on. You die there. Your team engaging was not a good idea either, they should've tried to defend their tier 3 top tower.

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All in all you repeat your mistakes and the enemy team had the chance to recover from the early-mid pushes. I would recommend to push more often instead of jungling (especially mid-late game), if you know you are safe. Also try to look more on the minimap (map awareness) while jungling, pushing, teleporting, ...

Try to last-hit everything you see, and try to get more gold overall. Reduce your teleportation to your fountain; just do it in cases like being at 10% HP and the enemy team is alive and/or out of vision.
Also Nature's Prophet is fairly good in teamfights as he can trap enemies with Sprout and block off heroes with Treants (requires some micro). Do not just teleport on open ground as it makes you vulnerable and the enemy can have wards there to spot you.

In addition: [Especially late-game] Try to always have enough gold for Buy-Back. Do not buy items if you have no gold left for a buy-back, because if you die you will not be on the field for a very long time.

It was not only your fault. It's the whole team; Do not let the rage/flames/insults influence you too heavily. It is a game and andybody can make mistakes and you learn from them.

37:i dont play with sound :/ i play with my headphones blaring "shoot to kill" and stuff :P

thanks guys.help is appreciated.Every-game-furion begins :P (did the same thing with storm spirit and lanaya)
i should have known about spectre mechanics.

33:i kenw i wasnt going to survive bristle back.too much slow.I made a bad decision by not going scythe.

overall,as i said, i know i did bad but...

and BTW i used my ult every time because i was having a bad time and after midas i couldnt contribute enough so i decided to help by pushing the lanes.

i was the captain and i had planned a push oriented team but my team wouldnt listen.

The only thing I will just add is that a ganking Nature's Prophet is usually better than a farming one, wining the game since the early stages.

I usually tend to get Medallion of Courage on him and gank around. (the rare times I play him)