Xyrus's #RoadTo4k Thread

This only helps against Pudge and it can be often a case of some "devoted support" buying both available wards(or an offlaner gets one) and putting them in some completely ******ed place. I've actually been laning like 3 times against offlane/roaming Pudge and in all of those 3 games wards were it somewhere in the ******* of the world instead of where they should have been.

And even then it;s not like Pudge needs to be afraid of ward vision with the new 50g smoke(OSFrog).

I don't think you understood Michi. He means buy them yourself and place them in the places you want, so you can't complain about your ******ed teammates after. It's just 75 gold, as he as so well pointed out. And it not only helps against Pudge, adequate vision helps against pretty much any incoming gank that didn't use Smoke of Deceit.

If your supports buy all the available wards and either keep them in their inventory or place them in useless places, you can't buy wards anymore -_-

Still, I don't think support/roaming Pudge is a thing at 2K MMR anyways. So Pudge ganks in the very early game shoudn't be an issue, especially not with smoke.

Also yeah I have no idea why smoke got buffed. Clearly a very underpowered and underused item Keepo.

Wow supports that buy all the available wards =O that's like the myth about gamer girls.

Not that I agree that it was a good change, but I suppose Smoke of Deceit was buffed because more ganks/more fights/more... chaos around. Which seemed to be the general purpose of the changes.

Don't seek for logic or purpose in most Iceforg's changes. He does something just because he wants.

I buy all the wards for my team, and I usually put them in good spots, or at least in the most common ones. I tend to be really poor in my games because of that but at least I get the satisfaction of knowing my teammates are not going to be ganked, even though they just don't care about that and not even one of them is going to thank you for that, but that's the life of all the support players, you are not going to get a single word of gratitude if you do all your stuff but you are going to get flamed a lot if you screw up even once. It's just like that, carrys are going to get all the highlights because they get a rampage but nobody is going to remember all the sacrificies you made so they can get farmed.

I do support/roaming Pudge sometimes and I'm 2k. But its mostly successful cuz of poor warding and lack of map awareness however. But I haven't really seen anyone else do it though.

Yes. Agreed. A value point in reflection is enough until you get manta.

Nobody except anyone that actually is good at Dota and not just a cocky kid, because it's also not a coincidence that most pro teams' captains are the support players for their teams.

I also see support/roaming Pudge sometimes at 2k. But then again, there isn't a place where I don't see Pudge nowadays. Maybe you should play him for mmr, Xyrus.

So you planned on ignoring your team and being useless after 15 minutes? Sorry but after so many years of dota and almost 3000 games you should be able to adapt your play during a game. If you want to think of an exact build before you start and stick to it then you arent playing dota. Especially as a carry.
And if you want to improve the way to do it is obviously get good at doing an effective strategy, not keep playing a bad one. Adapting and improving your builds is also a part of getting better.


but do you trust your self among those? at least the jugger game that you linked as an example? you did couldnt be trusted at all it seems. atleast your teammates couldnt trust you that game since you only misplayed as soon as you started joining fights.

i know im being extremely direct and probably rude, but you seem to need to hear it. you didnt play well in the jugger game and were useless, that was what i was saying. you seem to overestimate your ability to play and your game knowledge, which you cant have if you want to improve and raise MMR.
just see that your whole way of playing that game was wrong, and you need to completely change that.