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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Sp3ctr3 » January 13, 2016 5:43pm | Report
I don't know about you guys, but I build Maelstrom on DK in almost every game. Maelstrom helps you farm faster and is a really good item since it can be upgraded into Mjollnir. About Octarine Core, I don't know, I really don't like the item in DK, a Satanic is better IMO. My full slotted DK looks like Boots of Travel - Blink Dagger - Mjollnir - Satanic - Black King Bar - Assault Cuirass. I like Assault Cuirass a lot, but with DK's huge armor maybe I should build something different, like an Eye of Skadi or a Heart of Tarrasque?
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Wulfstan » January 14, 2016 2:10am | Report
DK doesn't need Skadi thanks to Elder Dragon Form. DK isn't even supposed to dish damage out in fights, he is supposed to do sustained damage and take as much as possible. The longer a fight drags out, the more chances DK has to win it. His entire skill set except Dragon Tail suggests this:

Breathe Fire - now reduces damage - less damage dealt by enemies, fight lasts longer
Dragon Blood - less damage taken by DK, fight lasts longer
Elder Dragon Form (level 3) - slowing attacks, enemies move slower, fight lasts longer.


DK wants to prolong fights. DK is the underdog Spectre. This is why Satanic is one of the best items on him. It just makes him so much more durable even without having any damage himself.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Nubtrain » January 14, 2016 2:26am | Report
Sp3ctr3 wrote:

My full slotted DK looks like Boots of Travel - Blink Dagger - Mjollnir - Satanic - Black King Bar - Assault Cuirass.


Just letting you know mjollnir and satanic is not that good of a combo, if you activate Satanic you won't lifesteal when Mjollnir procs and it procs often. I recommend just keeping the maelstrom then later selling it for moonshard/ac.

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BoT - AC - Satanic - Daedalus/MKB - Blink or SE - last slot can be whatever
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by TheSofa » January 14, 2016 7:57am | Report
Wulfstan wrote:

DK doesn't need Skadi thanks to Elder Dragon Form. DK isn't even supposed to dish damage out in fights, he is supposed to do sustained damage and take as much as possible. The longer a fight drags out, the more chances DK has to win it. His entire skill set except Dragon Tail suggests this:

Breathe Fire - now reduces damage - less damage dealt by enemies, fight lasts longer
Dragon Blood - less damage taken by DK, fight lasts longer
Elder Dragon Form (level 3) - slowing attacks, enemies move slower, fight lasts longer.


DK wants to prolong fights. DK is the underdog Spectre. This is why Satanic is one of the best items on him. It just makes him so much more durable even without having any damage himself.

Pardon me, but I'd like to object.

DK doesn't buy Skadi for the slow... DK buys Skadi because it's one of the best (if not the best) EHP item in the game (for the reasons you said).

Satanic, on the other hand, requires you to actually deal damage to be effective, something you said DK isn't supposed to do.

Could you perhaps clarify what you mean?
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by YellulzQuiet » January 14, 2016 8:27am | Report
What do you guys think of the old Chinese Build for Dk now ? it is now much better
It consist of building Hood + Blink + Armlet, so you can fight early, have mobility, damage steroid, you can defend against magic and then hood + dragon blood can nullify the armlet active.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Sanvitch » January 14, 2016 8:38am | Report
Glimmer Cape disassembled into Shadow Blade sounds more efficient than Hood-Blink, even if the initiation is a little worse.

Since you just can't have enough Chaos Breaker.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Hamstertamer » January 14, 2016 8:52am | Report
The chinese build was Pipe of Insight, not hood. Idea is to go pipe instead of BKB because it can be better in a pushing lineup.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Sando » January 14, 2016 9:40am | Report
As good as these posts are guys, I think we might be taking over the OP's thread, maybe move this to a separate DK thread?
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by YellulzQuiet » January 14, 2016 11:18am | Report
Hamstertamer wrote:

The chinese build was Pipe of Insight, not hood. Idea is to go pipe instead of BKB because it can be better in a pushing lineup.

No problem to go pipe, just 1,4 k ahead, the reason is hood is no very fun to use on yourself but sure you can rush pipe, i actually think is the best build now
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Sp3ctr3 » January 14, 2016 1:27pm | Report
I don´t like Pipe in DK, it doesn't give you strength or damage, I think Black King Bar outclasses Pipe. Sure Pipe helps your teammates which is not a bad thing but it blocks one of your inventory slots with an item that doesn't scale at all into the late game.
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