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Poll Question:


When do you think I should try Ranked matchmaking again?
When I have 500 wins
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Terathiel » August 14, 2015 6:41am | Report
Dimonychan wrote:



Guess everyone should quit Ranked then, because that's impossible.


U srs? Depending on the hero it's actually pretty easy. Once you factor in other *******s in your lane though, screwing up creep aggro, then it gets harder. But if you're completely solo in the lane, then you SHOULD be getting 82/82, missing perhaps 1 or 2 if creep aggro is more autistic than usual. I've managed 78/82 in an actual game once (admittedly as SF but the point stands). Obviously it's easier as OD, TB, those guys, than as CM or Spectre, but still is quite doable.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Dimonychan » August 14, 2015 6:45am | Report
Terathiel wrote:



U srs? Depending on the hero it's actually pretty easy. Once you factor in other *******s in your lane though, screwing up creep aggro, then it gets harder. But if you're completely solo in the lane, then you SHOULD be getting 82/82, missing perhaps 1 or 2 if creep aggro is more autistic than usual. I've managed 78/82 in an actual game once (admittedly as SF but the point stands). Obviously it's easier as OD, TB, those guys, than as CM or Spectre, but still is quite doable.

Then prove it. Get 82/82 in an improvised SF challenge, no skills/items etc. goes as Xyrus proposed on any hero.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Safecyn » August 14, 2015 7:28am | Report
You could always do what I did and blog your calibration matches so you feel that you absolutely have to keep playing in order not to disappoint readers. XD

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Terathiel » August 14, 2015 2:52pm | Report
Dimonychan wrote:


Then prove it. Get 82/82 in an improvised SF challenge, no skills/items etc. goes as Xyrus proposed on any hero.


Ok, so in my post-midnight exhausted state I went and did it. Missed 1, but that was entirely by human error. If I'd been paying that ounce more attention, I'd have gotten it, and made the challenge.

It's absolutely possible. Whether you get that level of freefarm, though...
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Terathiel wrote:



Ok, so in my post-midnight exhausted state I went and did it. Missed 1, but that was entirely by human error. If I'd been paying that ounce more attention, I'd have gotten it, and made the challenge.

It's absolutely possible. Whether you get that level of freefarm, though...

As which hero?

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Sanvitch » August 14, 2015 3:07pm | Report
Isn't it actually impossible to stack some camps more than 2 or 3 times? At least without cutting down tree's.

And it is possible to get perfect cs, it's just improbable to achieve in an actual game. Mostly because it's incredibly dependent on match-up and the circumstances of the lane.

Since you just can't have enough Chaos Breaker.

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Sanvitch wrote:

Isn't it actually impossible to stack some camps more than 2 or 3 times? At least without cutting down tree's.

And it is possible to get perfect cs, it's just improbable to achieve in an actual game. Mostly because it's incredibly dependent on match-up and the circumstances of the lane.

It's impossible to stack 5 without cutting trees. With some camps. I think the ancients can be done 6 if you do it really well.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Terathiel » August 14, 2015 3:18pm | Report
TB. I picked someone with whom I was familiar with their animations.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Xyrus » August 14, 2015 3:48pm | Report
Sanvitch wrote:

Isn't it actually impossible to stack some camps more than 2 or 3 times? At least without cutting down tree's.

Stacking Camps up to 4 times is quite achievable. 5 or more times on Netural Camps can be a nightmare though depending on the Camp.
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Guess everyone should quit Ranked then, because that's impossible.

...I thought you reached 3.5k MMR...8{(

Seriously though, in order to achieve it, you only need to be able to judge 3 things:-
  • First of all, how much HP the Creep needs to drop to before your Attack will secure the Kill
  • How much Damage it will take from your Lane Creeps
  • The timing of your Last Hit based on your animation + Attack Speed

Depending on Base Attack Damage and animation, some Heroes are easy to do this with, others can take a lot of practise, i.e. Crystal Maiden, Io, etc.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Sanvitch » August 14, 2015 7:57pm | Report
No I don't mean in general, I know that you can quad stack a lot of camps fairly easily, but there are specific camps that can't be stacked that many times because of the spawn box unless you remove a huge number of tree's aren't there?

The uppermost medium camps for both Radiant and Dire being the example I had in mind, they are the hardest camps to stack even once afterall.

Since you just can't have enough Chaos Breaker.

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