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Another trench tier belief is that it is the mid's job to gank. But as I play with players who are better than me, I notice that it seems to be the opposite; it's the job for others to gank mid. What I'm curious about is where did this myth come from? Is it because of all the "mid or(and) feed" Pudge players or is it part of an even deeper, darker conspiracy?
The midlaner should only leave his lane when he is well aware of the enemy mid's position.
There are midlaners that win lane ez then go gank and proceed to snowball( Queen of Pain, Storm Spirit. There are mids who still gank, but lose lane very easy. Well, they need ganks.
Basically:Your Pudge is heavily harrassed-he needs help in lane. Then Lion comes to gank. Pudge makes a kill. Then Pudge knows his lane is free and now he can gank without giving free lasthits and xp to anyone.
IMO, it is supports's job to gank.
One babysitts, the other ganks.
First and foremost, it's always the other one's fault. If your lane is warded, crepps are pulled, enemy offlaner hugs his tower whuile yours has just made a double kill, and you still suck and end up with 0/3/0 score and 10 creeps five minutes in... blame mid! Where are ganks?
Then there is a tendention in low-level pub to play very aggressive, "NaVi, davi!" - style dotka, regardless of meta or patch. Consequently, potato tier knows no farming mids, if you are SF you have to gank anyway, because I saw a video yesterday where Dendi went 30/0 with Shadow Frend, and he had 5 kills in 8 minutes... what do you mean he had haste and dd at the same time, reported noob.
And third, if someone takes mid I always expect them to kill stuff and get huge streaks, because mid is only for pros and mid has to carry me every time, if they doen't, they sucks.
see, this is not an easy question to answer, because there are two kinds of mid laners in the game,
1. Ganking mids
2. farming mids
3. Destroyer mids
4. Hybrid mids
ganking mids consist of :
These are heroes that can start rolling as early as level 4-5 and destroy enemy lanes by getting kills.
farming mids consist of : insert agility carry here.
These guys come into the lane with the sole objective of getting farm and levels. they arent the best at early ganks, neither can they completely destroy enemy mids unless they are ******ed.
Destroyer mids consist of : outworld devourer
Oh boy.These are *******s picked to destroy enemy mids, completely rendering them ineffective and wasting an important lane.
Hybrid mids consist of :
These guys have the best of both worlds, they can either farm and take advantage better items, or they can gank and destroy other lanes.
BUT, they don't scale the best with items, neither are they the best in ganking (in the sense that they require higher skill.)
It's neither position's duty in every single game. It changes depending on the situation and heroes.
If you're a farming mid like Shadow Fiend, the supports need to rotate and gank the mid to get you more fed without leaving the. If you're a Pudge who doesn't get great farm in lane, you should gank as soon as you get a haste/invis rune. It just depends what's going on around the map. If the enemy mid is farming and not leaving lane, punish him for staying there and have your supports smoke him.
Why do people think Dota has these rules that are the same for every game? lol
In defence of those players expecting ganks from mid, it is fair to say:
1) This used to be quite a common thing, a long time ago.
2) When both sides are running dual lanes, it can alter the balance of power significantly
Thing is - at higher levels you'll get solo offlaners and safe trilanes. In this situation the supports are freed to go and gank mid, as they should have been able to win their lane easily, and can be semi-jungling, giving them an excuse to disappear for a while without it being super-suspicious.
When both side lanes are dual nobody is free to go gank mid, and the balance of those lanes tends to be much more even, 2v2 rather than 3v1. A higher level mid arriving (possibly with a rune) and making it 3v2 can easily be enough to secure two kills, effectively winning that lane.
Never mind people picking ****py safe lanes like Spectre and Crystal Maiden (hard carry and a hard support...what could go wrong?), you might even have two carries competing for hits.
Basically, it all depends on the heroes involved and the situation. Some mids are great gankers and better off snowballing than losing their lane against a better harasser. Others are great farmers and should rush their items in order to have impact midgame. Same with supports.
But no, it's not the mid's job to gank EVERY GAME, or the support's - it's all about who's free and can make an impact. Leaving your lane to fail a gank is not a good use of time. Supports can fill in for roaming mids to get faster levels and some farm. Supports can help their mid win their lane. Mids can help the side lanes and help themselves snowball.
I always hated this thing so ****ing much... Its seriously the most annoying thing that scrublets believe. I never really believed it, but i too fell for it way back if people whined a lot.
People expect you to just walk towards a lane and get two kills, even though they are pushing the lane and not reacting.
The worst thing is when these kind of people are mid. YEA IM GONNA GANK AS A FULL AGI MORPH WITH TREADS AQUILIA, WHY ARE YOU NOT REACTING?
Im sooooo ****ing glad i dont have these people in my pubs anymore.
one of teh reasons I never solo queue. at least when one of us is playing mid and someone starts to whine (not always 5 stacks mostly 3 or 4 sometimes 2) he gets a response from everyone and if 3 people say something of it most of them are silenced (and some start a war against 3 peeps XD)
As an above average 1K scrub, I can tell you that this happens EVERY GAME. Whenever I go mid as a farming core, I am yelled at for not ganking, even if I am a Sniper or Shadow Fiend or something. People who don't understand the game shouldn't yell.
Basically, it comes down to who can get the most gold and XP/Minute. Wether it comes from ganking or farming, that doesn't matter, as long as you are spending your time to try and create and maintain a net worth advantage. Different heroes do this different ways.
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