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I was not saying take , I was saying Back Stab functions as a (I know it works, I just didn't think I spelled it correctly. It's also why I never tag Vlad's.) The amount of damage it gives early on, that also scales very rapidly, is massive.

To get the as fast as possible, why are you spending 1000 gold on a ?

Getting More last hitting power and killing potential from your skills is usually the way to go. The Poorman's Shield is there simply because is squishy, and it limits harass greatly while still comboing nicely with backstab (and giving you inventory space)

Here is my reasoning on Back Stab > Blink Strike. Blink Strike adds 30 damage per level. Back stab adds about 20 or more damage per level. Blink strike needs mana to be effective, and the more it is leveled the more you can spam it (thus costing more mana) If you hit someone 2 times with a level 1 backstab, at level 1, it is more damage than a level 1 blink strike. a level 2 blink stike vs a level 2 backstab has the same effect, and so on an so forth. if you hit anyon twice with backstab, it is always more damage than a blink strike of the same level. Blink strikes primary purpose it to augment backstab, not much more.

We seem to have quite a lot of misunderstanding here. I agreed on the previous comment about functioning something similar to a , and that is on my personal build. Please look at the item builds other than build #1, thank you.

Pardon me for the . I should mention it on the items as an expensive counterpart to on how to use your starting -ies. And as I previously said, the vanilla build rushes while possibly getting other items. (everything other than / may or may not be picked up. I guess I should be more clear in general, please wait for the update later.

Thank you for the explanation of your skill build's reasoning. I fully understand your point now and will add the first build later. (The testing went pretty well anyway)

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I was not saying take , I was saying Back Stab functions as a (I know it works, I just didn't think I spelled it correctly. It's also why I never tag Vlad's.) The amount of damage it gives early on, that also scales very rapidly, is massive.

To get the as fast as possible, why are you spending 1000 gold on a ?

Getting More last hitting power and killing potential from your skills is usually the way to go. The Poorman's Shield is there simply because is squishy, and it limits harass greatly while still comboing nicely with backstab (and giving you inventory space)

Here is my reasoning on Back Stab > Blink Strike. Blink Strike adds 30 damage per level. Back stab adds about 20 or more damage per level. Blink strike needs mana to be effective, and the more it is leveled the more you can spam it (thus costing more mana) If you hit someone 2 times with a level 1 backstab, at level 1, it is more damage than a level 1 blink strike. a level 2 blink stike vs a level 2 backstab has the same effect, and so on an so forth. if you hit anyon twice with backstab, it is always more damage than a blink strike of the same level. Blink strikes primary purpose it to augment backstab, not much more.

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I don't see people get Vlads that often.It just gives away their position.

There's a reason my personal build doesn't include , and that's because I play in pubs. Generally, the reason you would want it is for survivability. And in pubs, your ult is all the survivability you would ever need. I only get Vladimir's Offering against decent pub teams who actually ward against me, so the lifesteal just serves as a method to keep me alive because they can see me anyway. Giving away your position doesn't really matter when the enemy supports are loaded with s and their STR carry has a .

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Vlads is lifesteal that stacks with , that is the only reason to take it.

HOWEVER, I disagree with your skill build. The amount of extra damage you actually get from Backstab is greater than Blink strike, and doesn't cost mana.

In your core build, level 2, You will have 37 base AGI + 8 from items, giving you a grand total of 45 agi by level 2. If you have 1 point in backstab, you are getting about 22 extra damage per attack against the back. That is a Quelling blade right there, but on heroes too.

I would go OR first level (likely when you try to get first blood, or backstab if you are fairly safe and need last hits) and then continue the skill progression. I only disagree with maxing before Back Stab, as the added damage from backstab is much more viable at getting kills and blink strike requires a lot of mana to be useful.

And I would probably turn those into a Poorman's Shield, personlly, for harass (and if you arent getting harass, just leaving them at Wraithbands works too.) getting 2 slippers without intent of making them into a Poorman's just doesn't bode well with me.

Thank you for your feedback.

First of all, are you referring to the vanilla build? If so, then the vanilla build is just a compilation of what I personally see from most (decent) pub players, and what you would typically see as the "default" skill build for . As for taking at level 1 (and the that works on heroes reference too! ) and Poorman's Shield, they are both listed on my personal build. As I stated on the guide, the vanilla build's point is to rush as fast as possible, while possibly taking before finishing the .

Maxing first is debatable. I'll try to test it out first before giving any negative comments about it, but I'll state my comments on it for now. (Depending on the results, I may add it to the builds) We all understand that should have at least 1 point on each skill by level 4, and that's all he really needs besides his ult (along with some items) to kill an unsuspecting squishy hero at the early stages of the game. Now, as I said on my personal insight for the skills, the reason I max is for the early game (laning phase) engagements, as I find it more useful.

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Vlads is lifesteal that stacks with , that is the only reason to take it.

HOWEVER, I disagree with your skill build. The amount of extra damage you actually get from Backstab is greater than Blink strike, and doesn't cost mana.

In your core build, level 2, You will have 37 base AGI + 8 from items, giving you a grand total of 45 agi by level 2. If you have 1 point in backstab, you are getting about 22 extra damage per attack against the back. That is a Quelling blade right there, but on heroes too.

I would go OR first level (likely when you try to get first blood, or backstab if you are fairly safe and need last hits) and then continue the skill progression. I only disagree with maxing before Back Stab, as the added damage from backstab is much more viable at getting kills and blink strike requires a lot of mana to be useful.

And I would probably turn those into a Poorman's Shield, personlly, for harass (and if you arent getting harass, just leaving them at Wraithbands works too.) getting 2 slippers without intent of making them into a Poorman's just doesn't bode well with me.

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I don't see people get Vlads that often.It just gives away their position.

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