Mjollnir on PL?

Not saying that the proc chance of PL's ult Juxtapose is bad by any means, but I suppose faster attack speed allows you to create more illusions quickly, and then there is the passive chain lightning (or whatever its called) damage on Mjollnir.

So if I have a lot of gold left over, is a Mjollnir worth it? Or should I stick to slightly more standard items like Heart or SoV?

You don't need it because at the point where you'd get it you've got illusions flying out of your *** everytime you fight somebody, doing the attacking for you. I don't see why you need even more illusions.

I dont think its worth it later in the game, since a big part of it is the ability to farm faster early in the game. Bu early need need other items like diffusal, and yasha serves the same purpose.

Imo the new PL can mix up his lategame items up a bit more. Before you just wanted butterfly, heart and items like that. He is less about his illusions now, so abyssal is also pretty legit against a static BKB carry. Scythe is obviously still better against slippery targets like ember ofc.

Well it isn't only a farming item. I find Maelstrom and Mjolnir to be offensive items as well on a hero like sniper, since he needs the lightning and attack speed to kill faster.

He is very much still about illusions. Different kinds of illusions, very different but in the end the illusions are still very important. You still always build Diffusal on him, and level it and you almost always want a heart, you always get drums. There are some new possibilities, but these are utility items. Abyssal is a utility item. Sheep is a utility item. His core and strongest lategame luxury items still remain the same.

Well sure, but sniper's only steroid is based on attackspeed, and he needs the lightning badly for farming speed.
PL could get a mjollnir to get more illusions if you dont have enough attackspeed already, but why would you want more? A different damage item will give more dps.

So the 'problem' with lightyear's suggestion/question is, what will these slightly extra/faster proccing illusions actually do for you? They wont give you more damage then a butterfly of abyssal.


Also you dont just upgrade diffusal, it doesnt increase the manaburn anymore. And its not worth it for the agi increase, your illusions will only get 16% of the 15 damage it gives....

I don't think Mjollnir is a good choice for Phantom Lancer.

First Mjollnir will only benefits the main hero and his illusions get nothing at all, lightning proc will also give away the true form. If you really needs more attack speed badly, you might just get a casual Hyperstone and rush for Butterfly/ Eye of Skadi, then when it's ultra late game where your illusion are buffed up and hard to kill, you can upgrade the Hyperstone into Mjollnir and use the lightning shield on your illusion to tricks your enemy and lure out their important spells.

Isn't diffusal/manta/heart or diffusal/manta/skadi the only way to build this hero?

I mean he's probably the hero in this game with the most static item build :)

And once you have this stuff butterfly and abyssal sound just way better.

the start is static, but after diffu and manta you can choose between all sort of stuff. obviously you need some HP first and then damage, but you can choose between all sort of stuff like heart, skadi, butterfly probably core. satanic, MKB, BKB (yes its sometimes needed sue me), abyssal, hex, and **** it lets include linkens.

Double manta is too OP, volvo fix pls

underrated PL item???

Daedalus

better than a Desolator for PL

get that and Butterfly and be a monster