The ideas to change Venomancer - Rework.

Well, I remember him being played as a core Hero if I'm not mistaken: I actually heard it from older players, and with "older" I mean the time when the Vanguard was so strong everyone built it on every single Hero including ranged ones (and Veno).

I believe off-lane Venomancer was played some time ago too, but I don't think he's a viable hard carry because of the lack of scaling abilities.

*trashtalk mode* fear is just trying to make veno into a carry after i dunked all his arguments becouse math eludes him *trashtalk off*



Veno doesnt need changes, he is one of only 4 agi heroes who can support, 5 if you include gyro semi support.

Yeah, there's no real need to change a Hero so that he becomes a Hard Carry rather than a Support, and giving him ridiculous Buffs is only going to make him an automatic "1st Pick/Ban Support", similar to how Batrider was athe most contested Mid before he was nerfed.

Ultimately, you'd be taking a fairly well balanced Hero away to replace him with an identical but completely unbalanced Hero who does something a little different. Not worth it.

O really Tim?

Yes it's true. I remember playing against him, players would've made Vamgaurd, Ethereal Blade and other DPs items. Yup back then Vanguard was so amazing.

We don't need a Venomancer hard carry rework, Viper exists, he can carry, and has poison!!! Novel idea, leave Veno alone, great hero, if a yung he needs to be toned down.

Pretty much, i proved that veno is a bad carry, none of his abilities scale and he loses to a viper all the time. While you claimed veno is a harder carry. I could also upload a video where i let six slotted viper and veno attack eachother and viper always wins but i cant be arsed, becouse i dont need to prove more. I proved it on paper.

Then after you completely ignore that post or the fact that you were wrong, you make some thread about how you would make veno a carry, basicly making him a weird carry nuker viper/veno hybrid which dota doesnt need.

Why dont you put any effort into picking up a calculator before you post rediculous suggestions to beginners and veterans who are like 'WTF'.

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