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Forum » General Discussion » Void Jungler 19 posts - page 2 of 2
Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Smuggels » January 12, 2015 11:19pm | Report
does anyone know the EHP of void?

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Terathiel » January 12, 2015 11:45pm | Report
Level 25 6-slotted? Let's calculate.

2307 HP with BKB, Aghanims, Travels, Daedalus, Mjollnir and Butterfly.
25 armour with the same items = 60% physical damage reduction.
Butterfly evasion = 35% EHP increase
Backtrack = 25% EHP increase
Total = 6228.9 EHP against physical attacks.

Against magical-
25% magic resist.
Backtrack = 25% EHP increase.
Total = 3604.6 EHP against magical damage.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by KoDyAbAbA » January 13, 2015 12:41am | Report
unfortunately that calculation is wrong.
his HP pool is 2307
armor is 21.5.

his total EHP comes to 10664
witthout butterfly, it comes to 6169

in the case of Faceless Void and Faceless Void only, both the physical as well as magical EHP are increased by a minimum of 25 %

Confirmation:

Level 1 Faceless Void with physical EHP of 735.63
Level 1 backtrack is skilled.new EHP is 817.36

Percentage change in EHP comes to 11.1%

If you want the values when there are 4 points in backtrack, here they are.

Level 7 Faceless Void has a physical EHP of 1051.35
When there are 4 points in backtrack,EHP is 1401.79

Percentage change in EHP comes to 33.3%

This is classic evasion behavior.As your health starts increasing, the found values start deviating from the original values.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Terathiel » January 13, 2015 1:31am | Report
Ah, right. Forgot that evasion deviation.

There is a very good reason I dropped maths.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by KrDotoBestDoto » January 13, 2015 5:38am | Report
Void jungle is as legit as Oracle jungle:
You can do it, but it's slow as **** and laning will be better 99% of the time.

Unless you play 1k though, but everything is legit at 1k.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Sgt. Jimmy Rustles » January 13, 2015 6:24am | Report



This is kinda what I meant as well.. If your carry can jungle, that lane can be taken by a support who can use the xp/farm..

EG does it a lot when they pick Lycan for Arteezy.. He stays in mid only for the first few minutes, then goes to the jungle, which lets Zai get the mid lane farm/xp..

I've always seen some 1/3 position Dooms that jungle right from the start. Of course this doesn't mean abandoning the safe/offlane, since a support then takes over that lane.


I don't see how Doom can handle going into any lane. He's easy pickings without a good ability that he's ingested (I prefer Alpha Wolf for the crit stats if I can ever freaking find one). I've found in my time playing as him, he has to get super fed to be that invincible devil.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Xyrus » January 13, 2015 6:50am | Report

I don't see how Doom can handle going into any lane. He's easy pickings without a good ability that he's ingested (I prefer Alpha Wolf for the crit stats if I can ever freaking find one). I've found in my time playing as him, he has to get super fed to be that invincible devil.

Mid Doom Bringer isn't too bad, the Hard Camps aren't far away, meaning you can easily pick up a good creep early on, like a Satyr or a Centaur. In the Safe Lane, you even have the option of grabbing a Harpy and zoning out the Offlaner. <}3

...Alpha Wolf sucks tbh, unless the other Team just stand there letting you Right-Click them all day long...

You're far more fragile if you Jungle from lvl1, considering you'll most likely be on low HP quite often for the first few minutes. It's simply easier to Lane a Doom and rotate into the Jungle to find some extra Farm when Lanes are Pushed out.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Timminatorr » January 13, 2015 6:50am | Report



I don't see how Doom can handle going into any lane. He's easy pickings without a good ability that he's ingested (I prefer Alpha Wolf for the crit stats if I can ever freaking find one). I've found in my time playing as him, he has to get super fed to be that invincible devil.

only lower level pubs are about lane domination. and even then jungle doom will only make your lanes weaker. as i said you need 2 supports, so offlane or solo safe doom is your best bet.
transitioning into the jungle is also a part of being an offlane. batrider, doom, dark seer, and prophet all all legit offlaners because of their ability to jungle.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Sgt. Jimmy Rustles » January 13, 2015 9:25am | Report
Timminatorr wrote:


only lower level pubs are about lane domination. and even then jungle doom will only make your lanes weaker. as i said you need 2 supports, so offlane or solo safe doom is your best bet.
transitioning into the jungle is also a part of being an offlane. batrider, doom, dark seer, and prophet all all legit offlaners because of their ability to jungle.


I've never liked playing as him, so really, I don't have much to add with Doom other than what I've already stated.

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