Viper in Competitive Dota?

The problem is, in competetive Dota, you're not going to catch people out of position much, since they know better than to be easy prey.

Again, most competetive players wouldn't make the mistake of going anywhere near Viper when their HP is low, they'd heal up before getting back in his range.

It isn't that effective against Heroes who can spam Burst Damage Spells though, like Puck or Storm Spirit, as you'l end up taking more damage than them. Also, without Viper's Ult, Silencer could just spam Last Word and shut you down completely with ease, and even when you have the Ult, you need something to use it on to avoid the Disarm.

Gankers require Burst Damage to be effective, something that Viper lacks. If you can't take an enemy down fast enough, their teammates will rush in to save him, and all it takes is a single Stun to turn the fight around, as once his Ult is used, Viper can only Right-Click, whereas most Gankers have 2 or 3 Nukes and maybe a Disable for taking you down with.

You might deal a little damage to them, but Viper will be the one taking the most punishment in competetive games.

His Orb might make him a useful Aggressive Tri-lane Semi-Carry, as he can harrass enemies under the Tower by Orb-Walking, making it hard for them to farm. other than that, his skillset is extremely limited (1 Orb, 2 Passives and 1 Active Skill) and he scales terribly into the Late Game, meaning if he doesn't Snowball from the start, he'll become useless quite quickly.

Beautiful post, explained everything I needed to know. Thanks man ;)

He relies on his ulti for like 50-75% of damage in ganks, if they don't run... well he then relies on allies to do damage, which isn't bad since Rupture will force them to stay in one spot, but you can see where it would be better if he had a nuke to couple with his ult.

You dont need dagon on him, nethertoxin gives alot of extra damage along with his ulti.

This is why Dagon is essential on him. It gives him that extra damage to pick off heroes. It helps secure kills for him which in turn would get him some life back. Early Dagon on Bloodseeker is key.

I know you're more experienced than me and all... But it seems like a dagon is essential on every hero, if I follow what you say...

This is why Dagon is essential on him. It gives him that extra damage to pick off heroes. It helps secure kills for him which in turn would get him some life back. Early Dagon on Bloodseeker is key.

He plays every hero with Dagon.

#killsecure

I'm starting an intervention campaign for Pu12e's dagons :D

R-Conqueror . . . I love you.