Luna Build Guide DOTA 2: A Full Guide to Luna Moonfang(6.88)

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I disliked this build for 1 reason that makes me lose tons of mmr by following.
Mask of Madness blocks your Laser beam and ultimate in Situations u need it the most.
i died over and over again ganked on lane or in jungle while having the mask popped on, same in teamfights where i forgot to activate ulti before popping the mask. this guide is not updated to newest dota patch. blik dagger can work but on a agiltityhero with that great damage output could be a wasted slot if not very good early game. for lifesteal better go vlads if nobody else has it or satanic. mask of madness is a very situational item for very situational heros like faceless void.
thx for the wall of text but i will follow another guide. sorry

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I don't know what you want from me dude, the guide's 8 month old and I'm not planning to update it of course it's ****ing outdated.

Nevertheless, I still go on this hero and if you are stupid enough to just pop it at the start of every fight BEFORE you get your spells off, multiple times and across dozens of games(I assume that since you're talking about losing tons of mmr you've played the hero at least 10 times) then I don't think there's a remedy for your condition. Reflection and analysis is one of basic functions of human brain and I think if you make a monkey play 10 luns games and go MoM it will realize that if pressing some important button disables you from pressing two other important buttons for a time, this particular button should be pressed last... right?

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i died over and over again ganked on lane or in jungle while having the mask popped on

Unless you are playing vs -Naix or some other turbocancer lineup that relies on -armor(in which case you shouldn't go MoM in the 1st place), popping Mask increases your chances of survival because you get tons of MS while not caring about -5 armor because of how armor works. And of course in the situations where you want to run away you are not gonna turn around and cast your .6s cast time spells. I don't see how it is mask and not your own stupidity that killed you in those situations.

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blik dagger can work but on a agiltityhero with that great damage output could be a wasted slot if not very good early game

That's not true but yeah don;t go Blink anymore. Go Pike if you need mobility.

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for lifesteal better go vlads if nobody else has it or satanic. mask of madness is a very situational item for very situational heros like faceless void.

xd

In conclusion, I don't think any other guide will help you, and in fact I think you need to go see a doctor dude, apparently you are not very good with numbers(as evidenced by you failing to realize that 6.88 =/= 7.02) and especially not good with logic(as evidenced by you using MoM before Q and R across multiple games). Peace.

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My build for is if you can get it in 5 or 6 minutes, , , , then , by 20, 22 minutes ish, then into . By this point you should be out carrying everything if you have good GPM. Finish it off with a and , or if you need it, with a somewhere along the way if the game is long enough. Or you can go down the route instead of and then , works for me. Nice guide though.

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PL vs ??? omg... you need a 5-push team comp vs 5-carry team comp to win that one... push before PL gets 4-5 slotted... else its lost 100% other than that.. great guide also, BTW... i think the worst nightmare of yours is CK. massive illusions. massive stun. massive health and massive damage to blow up your *** in seconds (even with eye of skadi or heart)

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The guide lists Diffusal as a situational item, but in the description I literally say you can freely buy it if you have some use from the active. I don't list it as core though, mainly because it gives no survivability, and with the build I follow, survivability should be your main concern. Skadi/SnY are just better in MoM-Blink build. Diffusal is very good in the standard build, however, because standard build lacks mobility and has Manta Style as a core item so Diffusal has some crazy good synergy even if you have nothing to purge.

Also it's just now I noticed that I don't have E-Blade in situationals - I picked it up occasionally, not for the blast damage or beam amplification(it is not the main source of 's damage and since you can't rightlclick the target, it actually reduces your damage output lategame unless you quickly burst down the target hero), but for mentioned "disarm"/ghost form on self. I'll make sure to add it in the next update when 6.87 comes out.

Thanks for the comment!

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i love ur guide dude but i must say something.
i played luna recently and i think it is a MUST to have a diffusal blades for these reasons
1- its easy to assemble
2- high damage output for a single target
3- excellent against buff based heroes ( saladar-venomancer-ursa -etc)
5- u can sell it in the late game to have a better item
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and i think about having a Eblade is good also especially verses a team of two decent carries and 3 supports.for these reasons
1- good damage because almost u buy every agility item for luna
2-amplifies lucent beams damage
3-it can be considerd a 3 sec disarm(extremely important vs troll warlord when he uses ulti)
4- it can save luna is some circumstances(when luna get caught off-guard by phantom lancer or juggernaut)
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I give this guide a +1. the build is about a 4 out of 10 but it is written well enough that people will think this guide is actually good and try the build. thank you for not giving away any useful information about playing luna in a effective fashion!

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Updated the guide for 6.85 with some patch analysis. Added into situationals. Added one more "illustrated game moment". Fixed a few typos here and there. No 6.85 replays yet, of all the games I've played so far there was nothing out of order or interesting.

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I never said you should rat against PL, and if he goes BoT, that's great because that takes him 2k gold further away from being useful. It doesn't matter who you place your shield on because by purchasing you spend 5k gold at a sub-optimal item at best for . And it's not only you and BB vs PL, you can't theorycraft like that because there are 4 more heroes on the enemy team. By your logic, what prevents PL from trashing your team and finishing off BB with his team?

If you have 5k gold and want to **** PL up, get a . This forces him to go MKB 90% of the time. MKB doesn't benefit his illusions in any way except the True Strike, it costs 5k gold, gives no survivability and is hard to farm - especially under pressure - as PL has no way of farming fast. Meanwhile, Butterfly suits you perfectly as an item and you get 6k gold much faster than PL gets 5.4k gold provided you have space advantage.

That's they way all carries deal with PL - they wreck his face before he wrecks their face because the only carry that at least semi-reliably defeats 6-slotted PL and is not from Void/Dusa/Spectre trio is .

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^ faced that situation in two consecutive matches.

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doesn't counter PL nor does it counter CK, and it does not suit at all, even mechanically.

Pl becomes dangerous after 2-3 slots, so the main way to counter him is push his towers because underfarmed PL is just a melee creep if you have AOE. When he gets his items you should either be hugely overfarmed to a point you don't care about his illusions or be aiming for burst damage to bring him down fast. Mjollnir lightning does surprisingli little against this hero.

If you intend to "counter" CK in a fight and not by ratting him(which is how it should be done) you'll need BKB and among other items, and getting Mjollnir with Satanic is a dumb for obvious reasons, not to mention CK's illusions don't feel the lightning at all because they only take 50% more damage.

Hope that clarifies things.

A lot of phantom lancer this days get boots of travel. Ratting against a hero with bots is really hard.
Btw you don't have to place the mjolnir on yourself. You can do it on a (as an example) bristleback after the difusalblade is used. Than the pl has 3 options: ignore the bristle and take ****load of queil spray damage or he attacks the bristle and dies to mjolnir or the pl retraits and wait for his next difusal blade charge( 8 seconds cd) so you can destroy his team. If your team has no natural pl counter you are very likely to lose. You can try to end around 30 minutes but if you fail( what is really likely in a pub) you have nothing to counter the pl.

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does counter pl, but you have to be tanky enough for it to be effective. You see, it is not the passive lightning that counters pl, but the active. Pl illusions can proc the active lighting effect, so with so many illusiions attacking the hero, pl will end up destroying himself before he knows it.

Guys, guys...can you stop with that "Mjollnir counters PL because he'll kill himself on the shield"?

That's just not happening. Unless the PL is the biggest scrub EVER.

purges the shield. When's the last time you saw a PL without a diffusal? He can purge it at will.

It's not that Mjollnir is bad against PL. I buy it against him because it's the "least bad" item against the hero...but it's a soft counter at most IMO.

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does counter pl, but you have to be tanky enough for it to be effective. You see, it is not the passive lightning that counters pl, but the active. Pl illusions can proc the active lighting effect, so with so many illusiions attacking the hero, pl will end up destroying himself before he knows it.

I wouldn't recommend it on luna, since she isn't particularly tanky, but if luna went satanic and skadi/ or went for a heavy stats build that tanks her up, mjollnir might be a situational counter to pl.

The same does not apply for ck, since the way pl and ck fight is completely different. Ck will nuke luna down before she even has a chance to do anything useful if ck manages to initiate on luna.

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