Furion without teleportation?

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So, you know this annoying guy , right?
Well, I lost some games against him recently and realized that is ****ed up.
Then I thought. What's going to be a without ? Is he going to really do something?
Any thoughts ;p?

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The ability is the hero in this case. It's not that the rest of his spells are bad, just so-so and not particularly concentrated in any area (kind of a stun/weak minions/farmy-pushy global nuke). Can you imagine if he had some really good ganking skills or carry-steroids instead? Would be so OP!

As it is, he's kind of an all-round blank canvas you can make into whatever you want by adding items - utility, carry, pusher, ganker etc.

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is the best non-ultimate skill in the game...by far. It's actually better than a lot of ultimates.

The rest of his skillset has to be very, very weak in comparison to make the hero balanced.

Furion without teleport...is nothing. Literally nothing. He can spawn non-scaling trees that can't do anything besides push towers, he has a weak disable that's extremely easy to counter, and his ult is literally just a utility skill for pushing out lanes a bit so he can rat better.

Now imagine any AGI carry with ...OP. Simply the thought of or with this skill is complete ******** :)

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Having a way of dealing amazing damage late game aswell as an ability which makes you farm like a boss?
Every hard carry's dream...

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All has been said. You would be forgoing NP's defining skill, and his best.

What makes you think it's messed up?

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If i had to, i would replace teleportation with a nuke that deals damage on the basis of how many trees nature's profit has in a radius near him/target

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All has been said. You would be forgoing NP's defining skill, and his best.

What makes you think it's messed up?

There is nothing wrong with the skill. I just hate playing against NP. is too good.

The thread is about what's going to be without it ^^

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Without Furion isn't a hero.

He is seriously good in the hands of someone who knows what they are doing (AdmiralBulldog...), but he falls off so hard. If you aren't very good with him, you are likely terrible. That's why he isn't really picked up in pro games. Only a select few players can play him well enough to make him viable. Unless you can abuse your you just don't have any impact on the game.

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Yes Teleport is OP. He's balanced by his weak skill set.
For comparison just think of Riki and how utterly broken his Smokescreen is, and then how underwhelming his other spells are in comparison.
Or how Sniper has only one broken ability in Take Aim and his other skills come out as quite lacking too. It's kind of like that.

But its not like Furion is unstoppable. You can devote a lot of resources, usually for shadow blade or travels, to stop his ratting early and his impact is delayed.

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