Vengeance is My Name: Building a Proper Carry Venge

Does this really works? Because I'm a newbie

so this is why pub matches are starting to suck, vengeful is NOT a carry, has no carry skills, they are literally all support skills, this bothers me to no end when ppl make guides for supports to be carry it ruins any and all teams when people run a support like this, I can see venge being semi-carry but mostly support but srsly a hard carry?

Ok, valid point about the band

Well Poor Man's Shield on a ranged hero is pretty much a watered down Wraith Band, so...no.

It's not really, I know that, bit it's cheap, gives agility and blocks a bit of damage.

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Cause that's a great item for a ranged hero :p

She's squishy, so I suggest building poor man's shield as first item, even before Power Threads. Gives you some survival and helps with lasthitting due to agility bonus.

Xarai, I'm sure you're a joy to play with. :p Do you still build Battle Fury on Void, too? :{p

it's cute how you think vengeful is a carry XD it's like really hilarious to see people like you treating supports as carry,really i mean it, you think venge is a carry just makes me laugh my *** off so ****ing hard that i spew out milk when i read this ridiculous guide

I do appreciate the format help, MuoiKhoang, I actually learned the double bracket formatting right after I published this guide. All help is definitely appreciated though ^-^

As far as what you're quoting me on, there have been a few times in a pub match where the priority farmer either doesn't last hit, can't, or is afraid to due to harass, so Venge, even with her less than amazing range can last hit rather than let's say, your melee Centaur Warrunner or a Sand King. I've even met Void's that couldn't hit with a quelling blade.

Personally even though I like Assault Curi*** as a late game item on just about any carry, Venge will gain enough armor just by leveling, so according to the HP to Armor ratio, I believe in building her with more HP to balance how much she can tank, so for the move speed which she can gank, I believe in S&Y.

I'll definitely update the guide, thanks for your input.

Hi, It seems like you are not familiar with formatting on Dotafire. I recommend you to check out Dr.D guide to formatting, which had helped me a lot when writing my own guide.

A small advice: put items and heroes names in side this .
Example: [[Vengeful spirit]] gives you Vengeful Spirit


Not sure what this means :d ...if you realize halfway through the carry you support can't farm(?)

Now about a carry venge, I'm really skeptical. MAYBE an utility aura carrier, like buying Mekansm and Assault Cuirass, is a better choice! because carry venge need to snowball. Still, I can see it works with a Desolator.

Also, as a carry venge, what should you do in the mid game? Farm or gank? Split push or join teamfight? Please give more details.

I also want to see the mana issue to be address, because Jesus, she is one dumb girl (low INT :P). The bottle works, but a Ring of Aquila is really good too. Also, you might want to add Maelstrom in as another good DPS and farm item, which, BTW, stacks with Deso (I think).

Overall, you guide will need some more contents in the next update.

See you then. Cheers!