How to Exit Vicious Cycle?

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2 advices:
Try play stacked with atleast 2 people.
I hot out of trech like that
Secondly, DO NOT PLAY CARRIES.
Go play support buy wards. Get dust when people . The best things about trench is no one thinks you would buy dust or smokes.
Those fatty pudges dominate because of improper vision.
The trenches a re the places where you can farm as a support. A small item would benefit a support because hes item independant already.

You won't regret my advice. Implemebting this makes you see what supports can di if farmed and considering everyones creep scores is bad, the more items you have the more beneficial it is to you.

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Secondly, DO NOT PLAY CARRIES.

With all respect, this is a bad advice. Let's assume there is you + 9 ******s each trench game(which is often very true, like 70% of the time).

If you support a ******, he won't make use of it - he farms badly, he makes wrong decisions, he dies stupidly, etc. At the end of the day you bring ZERO impact to the game because carry can't use trhe advantage you gave him as an adequate supp.

If you carry ******s, you can get farm even if tough lanes because your lane enemies are ******s too and you can get away with things like approacghing the creepwave 1 vs 2 far from the tower. You can just hug the tower and get exp if things are bad. You can get out of the **** yourself, you can buy yourself obs, and yoiu are sure you WILL make use of them, on contrary to your rertarded teammates. At the end of the day you decide how the game goes because enemy carry is ******ed as well and you ar well worth 3-4 enemy heroes and have better farm than enemy 90% of the time.

Play carry/mid that scales into lategame and win because you set the game here in 6.82. Play support and play a lottery.

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I know i'm still rubbish at the game but I used to play mostly supports, sometimes randoming and about a month ago I decided to play only carries. My winrate want up 4% in like 100 games. I'd say play whatever you think you're best at. If you're best at supports then play it. If it's carries then play that IF YOU WANT TO WIN.

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I told him to play support IN A 5 MAN STACK. OR ATLEAST WITH 3 MEN IN YOUR PARTY.

I solo plaued support to get out of trench. Damn chanifrost .
You really dont wanna get in face of a carry in trenches.

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Play carry/mid that scales into lategame and win because you set the game here in 6.82.

Do you really THINK he is as good as he says?
The guy has played100 games. What skill will he have playing a hopeless case of a hard carry? Dont carries need 25k gold to come online?
Granted the snowballers will benefit him in short run but he wont be able to carry once he gets decent mates and enemies, believe me thwre does come that day. HE WILL NEED TO SUPPORT ONCE HE GETS OUT OF TRENCH HELL, USE MINIMAL GOLD, PLAY PASSIVE AND SURVIVE.

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The best cure is getting a couple of friends to play with. But about solo queue, I'd say it's best to learn play support. If you are the only support pick a hero who needs very minimally farm, but can still transition into late game. With this I don't necessarily mean right click, but heroes like , etc. Heroes that are useful throughout the game. If you however already have one support, my personal favourite is . He's a hero who doesn't need almost anything but a to be useful, and can have massive impact on the game with multi-hero s and s. He can also farm his blink fast in jungle provided that the other support can buy most of the wards.

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can you give us your dotabuff please, kyfoid? Playing carry is easy in the trench because after around 10 mins, they ignore you, they go as 5 mid and don't accomplish much. They never smoke so if you have a ward at the runes they can't kill you pretty much.

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Well m not trench right now so it wont di good.
I played support in 3 stack thats how i got out and my frnds taught me to support.

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no offense.....but with JUST ~100 games you simply cant say that you are "not a noob" ...the game itself features more than 100 hereos, which makes it IMPOSSIBLE for you to even have played them all....left alone "masterd" a single one. Sure, the game isnt all about hero-knowledge, but at this point, you simply cant know what every hero is capable off. Reading guides and learning about gameplay mechanics surely is commendable but if you REALLY want to get better, there is only one thing you can do: Practice, practice and ....well practice. Most people read guides, watch pro-matches and what-not.... but litterally not even 0.1% of them can even remotely consider them to be pros.

I recommend - from my experiences - to group up with BETTER (and this is important) players than yourself....you might be surprised at how little you actually know about the game.

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Everyone keeps talking about this, but what he means is that he atleast is willing to learn, did some research and knows that teams needs more roles then carry.