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7.01 patch

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Hamstertamer » December 21, 2016 5:00am | Report
Apparently 7.00 was so silly that we got 7.01 instantly.

https://www.dota2.com/news/updates

There's some significant stuff in here but all in all it's just a 7.00b. Quick rundown :

- Minor Monkey King nerf. Crit weaker at lover levels so less BS early game burst. Hero still OSfrog.

- Slight Lycan nerf. His stats got toned down a bit, but no notable nerf to his damage output or to the insane uptime on his ulti. Hero still one of the best cores in the patch.

- Visage nerf. Familiars HP reduced from 500/750/1000 to 300/500/700. They still have 80% damage reduction though. Hero still OSfrog.

- Invoker buffed again. Serious candidate for best non-obviously-OSfrog hero in the patch. He can rush aghs first item now and get 2 second cooldown invoke whatever his level. What a hero.

- Enchantress now has 355 base movement speed at level 10. An Ench without boots runs faster than a Crystal Maiden with boots and Wind Lace. Confirmation received that the wolves of Icewrack are actually used as pets by CM's family, get groomed daily, are fed with double rations, and suffer from notable weight issues.
But no seriously, Ench kept getting buffed since the 6.86-ish time where there was an offlane Ench every game, and never got a single nerf. Keep playing it, it's really good.

- Insignificant Pit of Malice nerf. Ability still ******** tier broken.

- Dream Coil cooldown reduced by quite a lot. Guess the fans will like it, but you're still picking Puck and hoping to win games with that. Good luck :)

- Chaos Knight...change? It buffs him as a carry but nerfs his early game as a roamer. But why play carry CK in a patch where illusions can't push towers? I think OSfrog wants to buff him but ends up nerfing him instead.

- Luna nerfed. Luna was *clearly* a broken hero with an amazing talent tree. Undoubtedly the strongest hero in the patch. So something had to be done or the hero's OPness would have otherwise broken the space-time continuum. Now ordering french fries to go with Dimony's salt.

- Furion looks like he got buffed, but he actually wasn't. Level 25 Talent changed from +6 Treants to 2x Treants HP/Damage -> that would be great, except it doesn't effect aghs treants. Bulldog got cucked. Everyone is going to take the 40s respawn time and throw himself at buildings repeatedly.

- Sven +20 MS talent. That's deceptively huge. He's now at 310 base MS. Get a Mask of Madness and/or a Sange and Yasha and just run people down. Sven can't stack ancients anymore but he can fight really well.

- Slark strength reduced from 21 + 1.8 to 20 + 1.6. So 20 less HP at level 1, 120 less HP at level 25. Well it's definitely something. Pounce damage nerf was a complete joke, but that's an actual nerf, albeit a minor one.

- Illusion heroes still unplayable. Illusions deal no damage to towers, feed gold, every hero lost two Ultimate Orbs' worth of stats, diffusal can't purge self anymore and diffusal damage on illusions nerfed to oblivion...RIP.

- Necrophos got balanced towards the dagon/ Ethereal Blade/ Aghanim's Scepter build btw if you dind't notice. 25 second cooldown on ulti = eblade/dagon cooldown, so he can do the combo several times in quick succession. And his built-in Ghost Scepter means that tank items don't matter that much on him. He's clearly a mid hero now, since the utility from his ulti got completely removed he doesn't make any sense as a support anymore.

- Riki is getting worse and worse as a roamer, but is getting major buffs as a carry with his MS and damage buff. Diffusal Blade can't purge dust on self anymore so I really think it's not a good item on him anymore. Replace diffusal by Yasha/ Eye of Skadi anyday. And finish manta to purge dust.

- Guardian Angel +10 seconds cooldown.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by ChiChi » December 21, 2016 6:13am | Report
At this point the only thing that's more predictable than the patches is your rushed angry and very peculiar conclusions on every patch, Hamster XD

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Hamstertamer » December 21, 2016 7:05am | Report
Waah. Nobody likes my patch analyses. She's being mean to me, please help :')

If I don't rant then who's going to revive this dying forum where spamming bots do 70% of the posts, huh?

Yellulz do something about it. or Tera. Ethereal Blade Tiny sounds pretty good in this patch with his mana regen and level 25 nuke damage. I'm also pretty sure Bloodthorn Morphling is a thing, if you morph enough strength to get a good stun duration and use BS on top of the stun. Do it.

I mean seriously. Dfire is slowly dying out. No patch analyses except when I do them. No gameplay advice. No wild theories. Boooring. The only thing you can learn here is what meds to take to increase your performance in bed :)
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Yellulzquiet Reborn » December 21, 2016 8:38am | Report
The Patch still feel very different, i am still testing what works, what has changed, what new metas we can theorycraft about :0).

Lycan´s Necrobook rush, the rat build, is dead by now, enemy team can tp to anywhere of their map for 50 gold so its almos impossible to do it without strategy(Like bait rosh or during a teamfight), but he got very strong in killing and fighting, pros will abuse him, normal players wont do ****

For Necrophos, your analize is pretty damn right, Veil and Blade Mail is not his build anymore, a rushed dagon gives you so much potential in mid.What is his damn buff was on his skill build, before he needed to choose for infinite regen or death pulse life gap kill potential, now he can have both AND max aura by level 10.Lets point out to greaves as he gets 3/2x heal now and needs a lot of mana early on(not even talking about the dispel and tankness it gives.

Still need to play more the other heroes to have an opnion on them.But Icefrog is clearly potato with balancing some heroes, slark is almost free win low level and illusions heroes are ****.Phantom Lancer is somehow strong, i won 2 matchs building Helm of Dominator > Difussal > Aghs, very strange.

Never stop posting here Dotatamer, you are the heart and soul of dotafire, i acess almost everyday to see if hamster posted something on dotafire, you have a much better analize than famous dota players like Merlini.I am not posting new metas and stuff here because i am still feeling the patch, we got a long 6.88 and 6.89 that was very boring, and now we have a patch with too much stuff going on.One more thing, try someday r/truedota, the comunnity there is very low level in terms of theorycrafting but you have new posts everyday so its a thing.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by ChiChi » December 21, 2016 9:48am | Report
Ahah you are right about our posts here Hamster, but that's simply because we do our patch analysis and much more on Discord now, where it is quicker and easier to obtain quick feedback.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Dimonychan » December 22, 2016 3:22am | Report
Quoted:

- Luna nerfed. Luna was *clearly* a broken hero with an amazing talent tree. Undoubtedly the strongest hero in the patch. So something had to be done or the hero's OPness would have otherwise broken the space-time continuum. Now ordering french fries to go with Dimony's salt.


Your sarcasm is actually pretty close to how things really are atm.

I mean, it's just meme 1 base armor nerf, and you have +4 on level 10 for free(which you should always take over damage talent because of new MoM).

I admit I overbabyraged at the start of the patch, if this hero and her team aren't completely dumpstered and have no mapcontrol she's even stronger than before - and she already was a Juggernaut - tier carry in the sense that you could just firstpick her and she'll always be at least solid.

If your team is ahead early game and you had a good lane I don't even see how can you realistically lose the game from that point. I remember when I had to run from pretty much every enemy carry early game because they could easily beat my *** 1v1 unless I was super overfarmed. Now you can just choke the enemy by farming their jungle and enemy carries can't do **** because you have a ****ton of damage and level + item advantage, while not sucking up your mid's/offlane's space.

That said, I still absolutely loathe the silence and decreased uptime on MoM, this even outshadown the fact that you don't care about -5 armor at all past 20 minutes.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Krwiozerca » December 23, 2016 12:26pm | Report
How games are looking with Underlord and Monkey King?

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