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At the end Of update there will no Orb effect (UAM)

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Pickless » December 28, 2014 12:13pm | Report
after i saw the newest dota 2 change log it's really surprising ''Diffusal blade isn't orb effect anymore'' that update give me a heart attack, now the Phantom Lancer can buy satanic diffusal which really over powered. I wonder why they remove the strong orb effect skill (UAM), Like ursa Fury swipes, Feast, and clink now can buy desolator, and skadi can stack life steal. So ? Skadi is semi orb effect huh ? This update just make vladmir pretty useless and maybe next update will remove the desolator as orb effect

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Nubtrain » December 28, 2014 2:59pm | Report
Really can't say anything about the new Phantom Lancer since I've yet to play it but why is vladmir useless? Skadi stacking with lifesteal has been a mechanic for a very long time.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by F.E.A.R.0 » December 28, 2014 3:07pm | Report
IceFrog is planing to remove all Orb Effects, because there's no need of them. It's just a stupid WCIII limitation.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Nubtrain » December 28, 2014 3:19pm | Report
F.E.A.R.0 wrote:

IceFrog is planing to remove all Orb Effects, because there's no need of them. It's just a stupid WCIII limitation.


I don't think the reason is the WC3 limitations if anything Icefrog wants to diversify item builds. It was limiting item builds on those heroes who previously had UAMs or as core items.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Pickless » December 29, 2014 1:43am | Report
But if icefrog remove the all orb effect
Desolator + Satanic will be core on almost every heroes like lycan sniper and other
Anti-mage Can buy satanic and so ursa
I just think it will be kind of fair if icefrog return the orb effect in most skill and item

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Kyphoid returns » December 29, 2014 2:36am | Report
Team ORB FTW.
Everyone will stack lifesteal, deso, skadi, diffusal and then 1 pair of boots.
Ice frog will be confirmed as trolling when deso wont be an orb anymore.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Unscathed » December 29, 2014 2:47am | Report
Yeah the removal of Orbs is a buff, but kind of make a big balance gap
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by MrLocket » December 29, 2014 7:54am | Report
It's possible to have all UAM limitation removed, and probably you can activate 1 or 2 of all UAM you has and the rest will be deactivated. But this will takes a very long time until IceFrog came out an idea to make it possible and seems "balanced". It will be very broken if IceFrog remove all UAM limitation now.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Kyphoid returns » December 29, 2014 8:04am | Report
Nubtrain wrote:

Really can't say anything about the new Phantom Lancer since I've yet to play it but why is vladmir useless? Skadi stacking with lifesteal has been a mechanic for a very long time.

Illusions dont get the aura benefits: No lifesteal ,no +5 armor or that 15% damage boost. Although they do carry that aura with them buffing anyone on nearby but they only last for 8 seconds so that is useless.

I wont say it is totally useless because you can become a midgame oriented fighting machine with just Diffusal Blade and vladimirs offering.
It requires taht you have a harder carry in your game or you plan to end the game in midgame or have a fair idea that you can convert the midgame fights into a snowball for the late game transition.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Fumbles16x » December 29, 2014 10:30am | Report
I think it was because Diffusal Blade has so much utility and the orb was kind of an afterthought. The only reason Riki gets one is so he can get rid of dust and slow people, and it limits his options since that's the only orb he can get. Same goes for carries who need the purge to break through Ghost Scepter like Juggernaut or something.

Desolator and lifesteal should remain orbs I think, but the rest need to go. Anti-Mage's orb needs to go as well.

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