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Lack of Communication in Pubs

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Forum » General Discussion » Lack of Communication in Pubs 8 posts - page 1 of 1
Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by JuggernautNukes » September 22, 2013 5:00pm | Report
Hey people,

Im fairly new to Dota 2 (280 Matches ~55% Win) and i really like the game - at least when playing with at least one IRL-Friend or someone from my Steamlist.

In like 90% of the games, my team has zero - and really ZERO communication - getting pings to get attention to an danger or something is a highlight.
There are so many games where people are not communicating OR only communicate in every other language, except english.

If you ask friendly to talk english you mostly gonna be ignored or get an "**** you!" or something as response.
Mostly the concering players are from Russia, Serbia, Ukraine, but also other players from other countries seem to be like this.

If you try to give some advice, stop them from doing useless 1vs5 Feeding-Stuff, suggesting an item or whatever its totally senseless - because it gets a) ignored or b) is responed with one of various insults.

Supplemented with flames on other players for their own failures, it crates a really bad Dota 2 Experience for me.

If one or two of ten games would be like this - okay - but its more like 9/10 games are like this.

Is anyone else experiencing the same or i am just "unlucky"?

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by RobinTh3Hood » September 22, 2013 5:34pm | Report
I have it a lot and I'm in low priority at the moment because these people reported me and I only play on Australian servers and I've filtered my language to English :P

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Sando » September 23, 2013 1:19am | Report
It depends - I play on EU west and some games randomly get a really happy, co-operative team who talk at the start about picks, items, and help each other out during the game. Other days it's MID OR I FEED russians, farming supports and yeah severe language/maturity barriers.

Things I've learnt that help:

- Don't be bossy or accuse people of things, ask nicely

- Start small, a little "Ty", "GJ", etc for simple things encourages people to talk a bit more and builds some trust that you're going to be a nice team

- Set your expectations low, so things like your support buying wards or a courier are met with "ty". Someone on your team getting first blood is "GJ". A team mate helping you out or securing a kill is "GJ".

- People who don't speak the language aren't necessarily bad, people with attitude problems are.

- You can use pings, mini-map draw and the chat wheel (it translate for other languages) to do the basics

- Some people are just bad team mates, unmanagable, unpleasant, usually it's best to mute them so they don't wind you up
A full list of my guides is here

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Yasutsuna » September 23, 2013 1:26am | Report
When you're a new player, you get this from time to time. Best bid is you increase your priority to play in the higher bracket. Although there are arses too, but it will not be that much.

Currently, Russian are always like that, fortunately I don't read Russian so I don't really cared about it. I recently had a match where a Japanese dude keeps yapping away until none of us know what he was talking about (we were playing captain's mode, all of us don't know each other). We asked him to keep it down but he wouldn't listen so we muted him and get on with it.

Just bear with it for the time being, once you move up, you can see these people will get less and less, although they won't disappear altogether.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Xyrus » September 23, 2013 3:39am | Report
The best solution is to only ever play with 3 or 4 friends. Sadly a lot of DOTA players are ****holes. 8(

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by JuggernautNukes » September 23, 2013 3:42am | Report
Sando wrote:

- Set your expectations low, so things like your support buying wards or a courier are met with "ty". Someone on your team getting first blood is "GJ". A team mate helping you out or securing a kill is "GJ".


Most of the time im the one playing support, buying wards, courier and all that good stuff.
If i want to play another role, no other support gets picked or the support tries to be a carry, dont buying anything, even if the team asks for it.
So often i end in being a semi-support when playing Luna for example - buying courier, crow, wards etc because the team hasn´t done it by 10-20mins.
Afterwards getting flamed for dont having items...

Playing Support seems to be the most un-thankful role you can get in Dota 2...


Yasutsuna wrote:

When you're a new player, you get this from time to time. Best bid is you increase your priority to play in the higher bracket. Although there are arses too, but it will not be that much.

Currently, Russian are always like that, fortunately I don't read Russian so I don't really cared about it.


Its kinda hard to get a higher priority / higher ranking when getting losing-streaks everytime i play "alone" in pubs - in like 90% of the games its because of the lack of communication, feeding or people getting mad about everything.

It annoys me so much, when the people only talk in a non-english-language - even if you ask them to talk in english.
They talk and talk and talk - but it doesnt help - so you ask them to talk english so you can communicate & work as a team - but then suddenly, they are quiet or just flame you.

Sadly its the cyrillic (? is that right spelled? ) writing/speaking people most of the times.
Wonder why there is a "Russian"-Option and i select English only and still only get them in my team...

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by PeachFuzz » September 23, 2013 9:35am | Report
I feel bad for them EU servers, such a mishmash of languages. Although I find that US servers have lots of South Americans: Colombians, Venezuelans, Peruvians where someone always d/c's. Can't help it.

Anyways, IMHO once you get more games in you'll gradually find that communication is not really necessary: especially true in solo q's. Eventually people you play with, and yourself, will have good enough game sense to always be at the right place at the right time. If someone is not then it is that person's fault, and the whole team will know it.

5v5 stacks require a bit more talking.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Pu12e » September 23, 2013 12:41pm | Report
Honestly, about 75% of players that you find in Matchmaking are Muted due to a communication Ban. So understand that communication in Dota 2 in not valued as a highly vital and intergral part of the game.

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