What Steam/Ice Frogger + Community should have done a long time ago...

I've bought multiple drums before and lately the charges haven't been taking away the other charges on the other drums that I have when I use it.

I think it's glitchy or something....

So that's what makes it more reasonable.

How does it make it more reasonable when you can just replenish the charges by buying the recipe? It'll be a lot cheaper and you don't have to waste slots on something you already have.



No point in doing that, save the money and get something else. You spent 1400 gold for an active bonus movespeed. Why is it effective for fighting and farming? Why can't you do that with just one of these items?

It's not any cheaper cause you still have the same amount of collective charges.

Each drum you buy cost 1725 gold and you bought it 5 times

1725 x 5 = 8625g

If you buy 1 drum and buy the recipe whenever you run out of charges 5 times then it'll cost

1725 + (5x800) = 1725 + (4000g) = 5725g

Let's say you also buy 4 bracers

525g x 4 = 2100g

5725 + 2100g = 7825g

So even after factoring the 4 bracers and spending money on extra charges, it'll still be cheaper than 5 drums. So yes it's cheaper

Let's say you didn't buy extra charges and just spent gold on extra bracers

1725g + 2100g = 3825g, cheaper by 4800g

With the 4800 extra gold saved, you could of bought a Reaver and Vitality Booster or Blink Dagger AND Armlet of Mordiggian. You also don't need to spend gold to buy charges since the gold for the charges isn't worth it so you'll be saving A LOT OF GOLD.

Depends on the hero, if not a str hero you want extra money spent on more drums for more general stats from the drum, not the focused str from bracer.

I will agree that when playing a 5 position support in a losing game a viable strategy is to get boots of speed ghost scepter and start stacking bracers getting smoke, wards, dust ext. however that is situational and only really hard supports should do that. I remember a ti2 game were LGD DDC was walking around as crystal maiden with boots of speed and 5 bracers.

Just because something is cost effective does not mean it it is good late game. Iron branches are the most cost effective item in the game (hence my portrait). That being said a bracer and treads will cost much more but still give better stats in the end. Thats why when Cary's have the ability to flash farm late gam they can farm up big items that are less cost effective but still better in the end.

Although on a little personal note, you do not have to answer, why do you still post? All you are ever responded with is people telling you it will not work and you are wrong.

PS: tranquil boots get disabled when you take damage. This makes boots of speed better for mid and late game when the heal is no longer relevant because of your large health pool. However we all know boots of speed are out classed by phase, treads and travel.

Ok, so I just tried a game with invoker, it was my first game ever with him but his skills wex and the yellow orb one enhance attack speed and damage... I tried boots of speed in to phase boots and the rest drums of endurance...

It really seemed to have potential but I played terrible, hard to set up and coordinate for me at first, but I got it.

Only problem is, I didn't spend my mana nearly as often as I wanted to so... yeah, the additional mana from all stats seemed a bit unnecessary...


But I was thinking... what about medusa? With her mana shield would not an all stat approach be pretty cost effective and powerful on her?

That's just an example of what items you can buy with the gold saved up. You don't buy strength items because you're strength and/or you don't get intelligence items because you're intelligence. You buy strength items for it's HP boost and if you're a strength hero the damage is nice too but it's mainly for the health boost.

It's not worth the gold, time and slots to buy 5 drums. It's not even good on any hero to have 5 drums so please stop insisting it's good even after I did the basic math. You basically spent 8625g for 5 items that accumulate to 45 stats and 15 damage.



Linken's Sphere + Eye of Skadi maybe Butterfly too but after that you'll need damage from items like Daedalus

So you're closing your mind off to a Medusa with 4 drums, phase boots, and boots of travel (Selling off tranqs for BOT)

Final answer?