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The Extreme Eliminator

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Forum » Hero & Item Ideas » The Extreme Eliminator 9 posts - page 1 of 1
Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by frogger_29 » April 26, 2013 6:49pm | Report
Ermorden the Extreme Eliminator
Affiliation: The Dire
Strength- 20 + 2 (70 at 25)
Agility- 26 + 2.5 (88.5 at 25)
Intelligence- 25 + 1.4 (60 at 25)
Damage: 60-65 (120-125 at 25) Attack Range: 140(Melee) Missile Speed: Instant
Movement Speed: 300 BAT (Base Attack Time): 1.7
Sight Range: 1800/800 Base Armor: 1 Total Armor: 4.71 (13.64 at 25)
Role/s: Semi-Carry, Ganker


Abilities

Q: Carnage Slash Ability- Target Affects- Enemies Damage- Pure

Ermorden teleports behind the target, then lets loose a devastating attack. This attack will do a 2.5x/3x/3.5x/4x Critical Strike and slows the target's movement speed by 25% for 1.5/2/2.5/3 sec. This attack deals composite damage.

Cooldown: 16/14/12/10 Manacost: 120 Cast Range: 400/600/800/1000

Notes:
Cannot be targeted on magic immune units.
Completely blocked by spell block (Linken's Sphere).
Attack modifiers (or orb effects) still occur in this attack.
This attack deals composite damage, meaning it is reduced by both magic resistance and physical armor.

W: Extermination Blast Ability- Target Affects- Enemies Damage- Pure

Ermorden fires his devastating cannon at close range at the target. Deals 50/100/150/200 pure damage and knockbacks for 400 range. The target is then disarmed for 2.5/3/3.5/4 seconds and at the same time will have its movement speed slowed by 30% for 3 seconds.

Cooldown: 18 Manacost: 135/145/155/165 Cast Range: 350/400/450/500

Notes:
Cannot be targeted on magic immune units.
Completely blocked by spell block (Linken's Sphere).
The target cannot be knockbacked towards unpassable terrain.
The target is knockbacked at 600 speed.

E: Dual Destroyers Ability- No Target Affects- Enemies Damage- Physical

Sprouts 2 powerful machineguns at Ermorden's body. The guns attack what Ermorden is currently attacking even at long range. Each gun deals 2.5/4/5.5/7% of the attack unit's current health per second. The guns have 450/600/750/900 range. Lasts 7 seconds.

Cooldown: 27/24/21/18 Manacost: 140/150/160/170

R: Axis Armor Ability- No Target Affects- Self, Enemies

Ermorden greatly amplifies his armor. Grants magic immunity for 4/5/6 seconds. During this period, all enemy units within a huge area around Ermorden cannot become magic immune.

Radius: 500/1000/1500 Cooldown: 120 Manacost: 150/200/250

Notes:
Enemy units that are already magic immune will not have their magic immunty removed.

Scepter Upgradeable: Increased duration to 5/6/7, reduces cooldown by 30, grants 5/10/15 armor

That's all and thanks for watching.

Balance Changelog

4/29/13

-Carnage Slash now deals composite damage instead of pure damage
-Carnage Slash cooldown increased from 12/10/8/6 to 16/14/12/10
-Axis Armor duration decreased from 5/7/9(6/8/10*) seconds to 4/5.5/7(5/6.5/8*) seconds
-Axis Armor now no longer removes magic immunity but prevents enemy units from becoming magic immune instead

4/30/13

-Extermination Blast damage decreased from 100/150/200/250 to 50/100/150/200
-Extermination Blast disarm duration decreased from 4/5/6/7 seconds to 2.5/3/3.5/4 seconds
-Extermination Blast movement speed slow decreased from 50% to 30%
-Extermination Blast cooldown increased from 15/14/13/12 to 18
-Extermination Blast manacost increased from 115/125/135/145 to 135/145/155/165
-Extermination Blast teleport removed.
-Dual Destroyers manacost rescaled from 140 to 140/150/160/170
-Axis Armor duration decreased from 4/5.5/7(5/6.5/8*) seconds to 4/5/6(5/6/7*) seconds

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Wulfstan » April 27, 2013 5:25am | Report
Q,R are overpowered.Immagine hitting someone late game with Q while having a desolator.It would insta-gib them.And removing magic immunity?

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by frogger_29 » April 28, 2013 11:23pm | Report
Wulfstan wrote:

Q,R are overpowered.Immagine hitting someone late game with Q while having a desolator.It would insta-gib them.And removing magic immunity?


Well, I just really wanted to put 'Extreme' in 'Extreme Eliminator', but you do have a point. A 4x crit every 6 seconds is no joke. Add to the fact that this crit deals PURE damage and slows the enemy's movespeed, his Q really is overpowered. I think I'll just increase the cooldown and make the crit deal physical damage or magical damage instead.

Oh, and about his R, it was meant to be a counter to BKB users, such as carries like PA and Gyrocopter, and other heroes with built-in magic immunity like Lifestealer. Maybe I'll reduce the duration and make it so that enemy units will not be able to become magic immune, so heroes that are already magic immune won't be affected.

Anyway, what do you think of his W and E? Are there anymore changes that I should implement?

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by SkyStormSpectre » April 29, 2013 12:33am | Report
I think a 12 second cooldown, 250 pure damage, 7 second disarm and 50% slow skill for 3 seconds is a bit too much over-powered-ness in one skill. Especially when coupled with two teleports, and an ulti that kind of makes him exceptionally hard to kill for a surprisingly long time.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by xelacroix » April 29, 2013 6:50pm | Report
****ing op

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by frogger_29 » April 29, 2013 7:39pm | Report
Is he really that OP? Well, I guess I'll have to do some balancing on the hero, without actually changing his concept.

What do you guys think of him now? Is he still OP?

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by SkyStormSpectre » April 30, 2013 3:22am | Report
Quoted:
****ing op

There is better ways of saying that. Like actually explaining why.

Maybe you should remove the teleport part of Extermination Blast. That would make it a more tactical skill that you have to position yourself to have the greatest effect when using the pushback.

Otherwise I feel he's fairly balanced now. He'd be one of those anti-carry carries. He's one of those heroes that will suddenly jump in, throw some burst damage down then right-click the rest to death. Ulti-ing when he's about to die to give him that 6 second survival.

I like him. Very aggressive hero.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by frogger_29 » April 30, 2013 7:15am | Report
Removing the teleport aspect of his Extermination Blast does make it more tactical and would make it require more skill to use. Nice idea! Thanks for the suggestion.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Crazy Tom » April 30, 2013 7:51am | Report
Much improved. The only thing I think that may need some modification is his E skill, because at level 4 it deals 49% of their total health. I'd suggest a higher mana cost for it, but otherwise it shouldn't be a problem.

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