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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by TheSofa » May 9, 2016 7:11pm | Report
I can see your point. However, if you have 2 midgame centric items (both vlad's and drums), you lose your identity as a #1(.5).

I feel Vlad's is enough of a "encourage my team to push early" without sacrificing gold for big items.

That being said, Drums is still a viable choice should you need the stats - however, do consider something like a Vanguard.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Kyphoid returns » May 9, 2016 8:19pm | Report
Problem with PL is that a simple item called crimson guard counters all his DPS from illusions. Having a go at rethinking game mechanism.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by masaaki14 » May 9, 2016 8:52pm | Report

Problem with PL is that a simple item called crimson guard counters all his DPS from illusions. Having a go at rethinking game mechanism.


Dangit kyphoid, don't just strut in and tell everyone, now everyone knows to buy vanguard into crimson, and i'm gonna get my first PL loss in 3 months

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Problem with PL is that a simple item called crimson guard counters all his DPS from illusions. Having a go at rethinking game mechanism.


But Diffusal's purge dispels the Crimson Guard active. So I don't see how that's a big problem. One charge is obviously worth using to get a kill.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by masaaki14 » May 10, 2016 1:07am | Report
Running out of charges is a thing, i'm one of the most frugal people who plays dota2(I hardly ever use item actives, unless i really need to), and i still run out of charges regularly.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Kyphoid returns » May 10, 2016 2:36am | Report
Crimson guard is a team fight item and no one is gonna pop it for 1v1.Maybe as a last ditch effort to escape.

You have your own debuffs to worry about that may occur due to doppelganger cool down limitations. Diffusal used to slow fleeing enemies. Diffusal used to purge buffs/guardian angel. And then there are 5 heroes getting the buff.

Crimson guard costs around the same as diffusal and probably an enemy snowballer purchases it before your diffusal to probably delay your diffusal timing and reduce the impact you have on team fight.

I want to make semivoable PL builds viable in the future. Not saying it will be done after the ti or next patch but it's on my list that includes things that people rant.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Kyphoid returns » May 10, 2016 4:00am | Report
So ,

Who has a build on PL that's completely out of the ordinary?
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Hamstertamer » May 10, 2016 5:07am | Report
Intead of asking how to build PL, maybe stop nerfing him for no reason?

You literally removed 20% of his damage output with your Diffusal Blade change.

It's the Phantom Assassin syndrome all over again. You mess with items for no reason and then people don't understand why some carries hit like declawed kittens.

Besides, this is a Terrorblade and Chaos Knight patch, not a PL patch.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by YellulzQuiet » May 10, 2016 5:36am | Report

So ,

Who has a build on PL that's completely out of the ordinary?

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Seriusly, this fighting nutch pl was only fun in 6.84 because he was broken, but this sucks right now, you need at least a Vanguard and a Diffusal Blade to kill someone

But the Cancer Lancer we used to have was the truly FUN, give him back the 4 AGI gain and the Duration on ilussions to 20s ( or at least give him the Magic Resistance XD)

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Kyphoid returns » May 10, 2016 6:28am | Report
Hamstertamer wrote:

Intead of asking how to build PL, maybe stop nerfing him for no reason?

You literally removed 20% of his damage output with your Diffusal Blade change.

It's the Phantom Assassin syndrome all over again. You mess with items for no reason and then people don't understand why some carries hit like declawed kittens.

Besides, this is a Terrorblade and Chaos Knight patch, not a PL patch.


This is an elder Titan + top pick patch.
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