Xyrus's Inhouse Rant + Poll

YOU WOULDNT!!!!! but but but mah techies :(

Some of my opinions on the matter of salt and communications in the game.

Ok people need to realise that unless you can point out specific things beforehand (lion go buy a blink after boots) criticising after the fact is completly useless, will only get not only the player but the whole team out of their comfortzone.

Excusing a salty 'second persona' is being helpfull is ********. Im gonna get personal here but for instance wulfs general saltyness is not about helping people to improve, its disencouraging the team, talking about a specific mistake over and over again and generaliy lowering morale. It pretty much made me and other people not wanting to play with you anymore cause you cant controll your emotions.
Same with waloo, he isnt giving feedback, he is losing his composure and taking out his frustration on his teammates. I mean come on, ive won a game against him by us focussing him hard, causing him to choke and even abandon.

I have no problem with trying to lead a team and issuing general commands to take certain objections or movements. If you have sufficient skill to play and lead ateam like that then go for it. Some people think its condecending but then thats their own problem and need to take themselves less seriously.
But again, whining about other peoples mistakes after the fact is useless, call it out if you see it coming beforehand and if something is done wrong by someone then thats on them, a mistake was made and they will learn from it.

Take yourself less seriously people, if you think you are better then other people then let your actions speak, as are the words of the local football club, 'geen woorden maar daden' (no words, but deeds)
Dont be preoccupied with trying to prove that you are better then someone. Just play. (Kind of obviously aimed at xyrus's desire to prove he is a better wind then bunkan so i might as well put this here...)


As for drafting i think that a lot of the times drafters just aim for a meta lineup that is better on paper, and still often fail at that(plz believe me that this isnt directed at a specific person, its just a trend im seeing), instead of getting comfortpicks for players which is WAAAAY MORE IMPORTANT. Yes, there will be some players that have a very limited hero pool, but they will improve and expand those pools.
If you HAVE to criticise someone then do it outside of a game, dont ruin the curren game that you are playing.

Ehhh i guess thats it, Tim out.

Wait, if this will "make the inhouse less fun" for the experienced players why do you think putting completely new heroes in the hands of an unexperienced one will be fun for him? :P

I think you've hit jackpot here. In-houses can't be fun only for the more experienced players, who get to compete with one another and boss the others around - at least I don't think they should be like this, and if me and Bunkan aren't playing as much because of this probably other people aren't too for the same reasons.

More mistakes only frustrate if you're there trying to play at your best and winning no matter what - otherwise too see the more experienced players making mistakes will both be a relief for the others and a reminder to themselves that mistakes happen.

Why don't we just simply put some players in the inhouse as coaches for each team, and have them solely focus on helping their team to do better?

More experienced player can have a load off their back knowing they can focus more on their own play and the less experienced players have a guy who can solely focus on helping them in terms of items, builds, as well as game decisions. If the players have something they don't agree with the coach, they can give their opinions but they can otherwise focus on their own gameplay.

Pretty much what Timminator said. Leave the "GG noob team" flaming attitude to solo queue, this is not solo queue and if you do that here you're the only one doing it and you just sound like an ****. Besides if you're that good you should be carrying your scrub team not whining about it.

I'm all for Sando's suggestion of non-tryhardiness. You will all fear my Chen you fools!! (0 games played as Chen).

It's completely true that you see a lot of drafts fail because the drafter focuses only on the draft and not on who can play what hero. Happened to me...a lot. But if you start prioritizing comfort zone heroes over having a good draft, there's no point in playing CM in the first place, go ranked AP.

Besides there's just not enough time in the picking stage to worry about everything IMO. Back when I played ranked CM, people used to suggest heroes they can play all the time and as a captain you could just pick what fits the lineup best. But I saw that on dotafire people are pretty scared to even suggest heroes so you have to ask directly and it takes a loot of the valuable picking time -_-

I think people need to just learn to give people helpful insight instead of flaming as a "method" to teach people what to do, because it doesn't work. There are probably some people who can perform better if they have someone shouting what to do all game, but I guarantee for the majority people would rather not have someone shouting down their throat all game.

I think if you are gonna get mad, just take a chill pill and try to remember that not everyone you play with is going to know all of the mechanics about dota 2, and that some of them may not have even played some heroes in the game before.

This :D

Instead of writting lenghty things I should just ask Bunkan to do it for me.

This is what I was saying all so many times. You should not be "scared" of trying new heroes out. Leave your comfort zone (in this case dem pretty grills) and try out new stuff.




While you and many more think this is somewhat condecending, and I won't say it is not, I'm going to add something to it. It is ok to make a mistake. We all do. However, it is nowhere near close to ok repeating the same mistake 5 more times in the same game (not talking about anyone in particular here.), then saying you acknowledged it, and then doing it the next game as well. - this is where I flip and break some tables.


Plus, you should be one of the several on this site that know that I can be both: salty AF, or really calm. The problem here that if I start going more towards the trollish side(neither of which I listed), I start losing concentration and I start to not care about the game's outcome.

Hey man, i was thinking if we have someone who could coach as well as purge can( smuggs i'm looking at you), He can definitely help newbies get accustomed to the levels of play that the more experienced players play in. Also, having someone to just watch over you, not the kind of coach that shouts at everything and tells you what to do specifically at every point of the game, but one who just makes sure you don't make any stupid decisions( like rushing radiance on abbadon straight after brown boots with nothing else, camping mid for over 5 mins at the 20min mark as a carry staring at the enemy team, or rushing into a tower with no vision of any enemies)

Just someone who can help you make decisions(by suggestions, not orders) would help tremendously in my opinion.

This by the way, this game i left about 5 minutes in, i got into the game i hadn't said anything and all anybody ever spammed is waloo salt, so i just left the game and this is the reason i don't play with you all anymore, you may think i'm all salt but how many inhouse games have i actually played with you people, probably less than 5, you can ask anybody im not even salty 80% of the time, i do get salty obviously. The last time I played was in the last inhouse i decided, what the hell, it'll be fun, i was laughing and having fun with xyrus joking around and alenari later just jokingly started talking about how this isn't waloo and constantly taunting about me being salty, in reality how many games have any of you actually played with me, I'm really tired of playing in in-houses because after 2 games of me being salty every single time i join a game everybody spams salt and complains about me being salty before the game even starts and i'll just leave.

And while I do agree I rant a lot you need to get your head out of your *** because I don't just go on about the same mistake, I constantly tell people what they could do to improve and what they should next time the same situation occurs I won't just say it was a mistake.

Sorry but you really triggered me with your ****.