When u must fight a counter pick heroes.

Hi guys,i'm rickk. I want to know about any tips when u face a counter pick heroes.I know that avoid pick is best but if it really a bad day so how u guys deal?

http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/1759661923

Me(WK support ',:/ ) n my friend(viper) play together,the enemy that i got counter pick is PL,It's lucky that we won that match. At start i let my friend got farm because WK can support n i wait for gain some lvl for ganking effectively n for my ultimate.


So how about u guys deal with counter pick heroes? awareness? item build or a plan in your head?

n sorry for my eng -.-

It depends on the hero and the situation.

Like the PL against WK; Well WK and Viper are really good aggresive hero early on, and PL needs time and space to come online. So simply abuse that advantage, shut the PL down and end the game early.

A lot of the time heroes act as mutual counters to each other, just with different timing windows, and it's about how you use your strong periods to your advantage and limit there's.

It's really hard to give general advice on that tbh unless you want it for just that specific situation.

I agree with Sanvitch. It is really hard to answer this question in general, it is very dependent on the heroes in question. Most of the times you counter them with the timing window's approach, but also in general you can just take specific precautions, or you buy specific items.

Let's say, for instance, that you're a Riki in a Bristleback game; you can ask someone adequate to purchase a Silver Edge and you gank Bristle together; or Crystal Maiden, a hero that I know more personally, is picked into a line-up with lots of burst damage which easily one-shots her - you build up more Strenght, be very careful with your position and only show up when the nukes have been used, or/and you buy Black King Bar. Or another example: you're a ganker like Slark and they pick a Techies, which bombs their entire jungle and paths. You cannot play as you normally would, instead you should join your teammates, get some form of vision and take objectives as 5, because it will be harder for the enemy team to fight you 4v5. And so on.

I don't know if this is possible or recommendable at all, but can you buy a Battle Fury as a WK to deal with PL?

Yes you can, i have done that once and it worked. however, i feel that a mjolnir is better overall for fighting pl, simply because pl's illusions can proc lightning when you use mjo's active on yourself. With so many illusions attacking, pl will just end up destroying himself before he knows it. If mana burn is your issue, buy a bkb, and activate it when he focuses you.

Oooohhh Mjollnir! Nice.

There you have it Rickk, some ways to counter your counter :)

Ways to counter your counter? But what if there are ways to counter your counter to counter their counter?

Like, as a Bat, they have Razor passive to counter me. But I bought a force staff to counter that. So Razor bought a Hex to counter that.

Then bat got a bkb to countet that.

This is fun, continue the train?

Since when does Bat buy BKBs?

We then you could say Bat got a Linkens.

And then Razor bought a dagon to counter that. :D

since always.

And then you bought a Glimmer Cape, since "it's so op omg", and then you've won the game AHAH :D