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Help! Counters for the most picked heros.

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Forum » General Discussion » Help! Counters for the most picked heros. 16 posts - page 1 of 2
Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by undeadsasuke34 » March 11, 2015 11:13am | Report
Axe, Troll, Slark and Juggernaut are the most picked heros right now (and Sniper but everyone knows how to counter Sniper).Can you help me?

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Swixcap » March 11, 2015 11:37am | Report
They counter each other quite well! ;)

Otherwise, generally all of these heroes do heavy physical damage, hit fast (except Axe) and lacks chasing abilities. Considering that, here are some suggestions that in my opinion counter them well (Adding more as I come up with ideas):
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Hamstertamer » March 11, 2015 12:02pm | Report
That's actually a great idea to make this thread. I thought about making one like that at some point.

- Troll Warlord : he's more or less like Ursa, if you stand next to him, you're dead. You need a ranged carry that can kite him and/or supports with good lockdown.

Good carries against him : Weaver (he can't kill you whatever he does and he's a natural MKB carrier), Medusa (natural Skadi carrier and will wreck him in teamfights), Clinkz (natural Skadi and MKB carrier who can outrange him and kite him pretty hard), Morphling (skadi carrier and more mobility), Viper and Drow Ranger (really good kiters although they'll still lose against him if the game goes late), outworld devourer (he has no INT and his ult essentially one-shots him).
Good supports against him : Shadow Demon (slow him through BKB and make him beat himelf), Lich (ice armor wrecks him), Omniknight (obvious reasons, besides he already has slot issues without buying diffusal), Bane (insane lockdown though BKB), Winter Wyvern (makes allies immune to physical damage and ult owns him). Besides any good teamfight hero like Mag/Enigma/Darkseer/whatever owns him because Troll is already pretty weak in teamfights.

note : unlike popular belief Sniper is actually pretty bad against him because as soon as Troll gets his Blink Dagger you're ****ed. He's still a really good lane counter to Troll as a solo mid though...but after 20 minutes if Troll is a decent player he'll own you easily with his blink for the rest of the game.


- Juggernaut : anything with high mobility owns him because they can interrupt Omnislash. Any hero with a Blink, Waveform, Time Walk or such can just blink out of his ult. Pick mobility heroes.

- Slark : Generally heroes with long silences are the best against him. If you jump on him with a Blink or invisibility he has no way to Dark Pact it and he's screwed
Or just be a tryhard and pick Bloodseeker, Doom or Disruptor. Makes Slark unplayable.

- Axe : he's easy to counter in lane you just need a ranged carry. The only real problem is that Berserker's Call having literally no cooldown is OP as ****. There's no counter to him spamming call in teamfights sadly, besides heavy slows. Again ranged carries that can kite him with skadi or similar are the best.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by armc3j » March 11, 2015 12:53pm | Report
Axe: Axe's main power relies on people attacking him. If you ignore him, he can't really do much except get the occasional Culling Blade off. He will make the landing stage difficult for you thanks to Counter Helix and berserkers call, but at the cost of pushing his own lane.
-just stay safe. In the landing stage, try not to get caught out near your own creeps, because that will proc berserkers call a lot. Just gank him a lot and don't let him get fed.

Troll: Troll Warlord is mainly picked because of his passive, Fervor, which allows him to reach insane attack speeds.
-I'd recommend Axe as a counter. He is naturally tanks and Blade Mail plus Counter Helix will force troll to ignore you or literally tear himself to shreds.

Juggernaut: Juggernaut is a semi-carry who, when fed, can transition into a late game force. His ult makes him a force to be reckoned with in team fights, and his passive is good mid-to-late game.
-know when his ult is up and when it's down. If you gank him when it's down, he won't be able to farm easily and he can't turn the gank around. Just be careful to bring enough dps, since Blade Fury makes him resistant to magical damage. I'd say Troll Warlord counters him pretty well because of Fervor.

Slark: my favorite hero, who i'm sad to see misused a lot... His ult Shadow Dance counters Juggernaut and Troll Warlord, and it's passive means that If you give him a chance to get away, he will survive.
-when you go to gank him, bring lots of stuns and/or constant vision of him. Heros like Bloodseeker, Bounty Hunter, and Slardar are all great since they provide vision. Slander is my personal favorite since he can chase with sprint and Slithereen Crush is a solid stun/damage combo

Hopefully this answered your question...
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Zerosaviour » March 11, 2015 3:31pm | Report

Axe, Troll, Slark and Juggernaut are the most picked heros right now (and Sniper but everyone knows how to counter Sniper).Can you help me?


Omniknight counters all right clickers with ult. Build a mek on him then Axe's blademail ends up being less effective.

Play him as a greedy #4 support = profit.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Hamstertamer » March 11, 2015 3:33pm | Report
Who goes mek on omni? It just delays your Refresher Orb...and when you have your refresher...GG xD
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Zerosaviour » March 11, 2015 3:57pm | Report
Hamstertamer wrote:

Who goes mek on omni? It just delays your Refresher Orb...and when you have your refresher...GG xD


Cause most idiots won't go mek on their heroes no matter how well suited their hero is to carry mek. After I get mek on Omni I then start on refresher. So my team gets mad heals and strong defense.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by armc3j » March 11, 2015 11:57pm | Report
Zerosaviour wrote:

Cause most idiots won't go mek on their heroes no matter how well suited their hero is to carry mek. After I get mek on Omni I then start on refresher. So my team gets mad heals and strong defense.


IMO, met is one of the most under-used and underrated items in pubs. 250 heal and 2 armor is nothing to laugh at
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by KrDotoBestDoto » March 12, 2015 12:14am | Report
Yeah a lot of people think mek is not worth it. They don't think so though when I take all their outer towers by minute 20, because Enigma can push like a madman with it.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Zerosaviour » March 12, 2015 3:42pm | Report

Yeah a lot of people think mek is not worth it. They don't think so though when I take all their outer towers by minute 20, because Enigma can push like a madman with it.


It can also change many fight outcomes when used. Saved many poor sobs from a Sniper ult with a quick mek.

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