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Kiting With Kardel

October 9, 2012 by AceofSpikes
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AceofSpikes | October 11, 2012 11:30pm
Glayde wrote:

I think instead of a Circlet, get a Slippers of Agility at the beginning. Get one level of shrapnel early to push, harass, etc. and Desolater or Mjollnir are other luxury or even core items.


One level of shrapnel is extremely inefficient with mana, as the skill always costs 130. The reason I grab range first, is to keep you as safe as possible while farming at all moments, its a play style that will save your life.
Desolater is not an option, simply because this is a kiting build, and skadi is core, thus a deso would never be worthwhile because the effect would be overridden. A Mjollnir is a very solid item, as it would only take away from your frost shots when it procs, but I find it not as necessary as you would think. Comparing it to a Daedalus for dps output is absurd, and saying it has more beneficial than a Butterfly is even hard for me to grasp. Thus, I will not say it lacks viability, but it doesn't fit into this style.

Circlet provides 38 hp and 2 damage
Slippers of Agility provide you 3 damage
1 Damage is a minor difference, 1 attack speed is unnoticeable, but 38 hp is a significant change at this point in the game.
I value 38 hp more than 1 damage early game
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AceofSpikes | October 11, 2012 11:24pm
Numeta wrote:

In his early items up to yasha, he only has + 46 damage with 5700 gold spent. If you don't have damage on sniper I don't know why you're picking him. And he doesn't skill shrapnel? I don't think this could be anymore worthless.

He could have an entire Eth blade or Orchid instead of all these small support items. Sniper is a carry, not a roamer, not a ganker. He farms, assassinates, farms more. Having a Drum will not stop you from dying. If you get caught on sniper you're dead no matter what.

Also.... Shadow blade? Need I say anything?

I'm not trying to be harsh... but I'm going to accredit this build from watching some ****ty caster playing dota.


First of all, I mention that the Ring of Aquila is a completely optional item, is better is ignored, but if you need it, pick it up.

If you noticed, I said that Shadow Blade is a potential item:

If you are ahead, this will help you get further ahead.
If you are not ahead, this item will not help you.

Also, This build is to be able to kite people early game, and during team fights later.
This is not a straight dps build.
You will find yourself dieing alot less, and even turning around ganks if you use this build properly.
Please give me suggestions instead of raging.
Congrats, if someone on your team has bought drums, feel free to not get it, but the stats to gold is quite good on drums.
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SuperNova (16) | October 11, 2012 3:41am
Numeta wrote:

In his early items up to yasha, he only has + 46 damage with 5700 gold spent. If you don't have damage on sniper I don't know why you're picking him. And he doesn't skill shrapnel? I don't think this could be anymore worthless.

He could have an entire Eth blade or Orchid instead of all these small support items. Sniper is a carry, not a roamer, not a ganker. He farms, assassinates, farms more. Having a Drum will not stop you from dying. If you get caught on sniper you're dead no matter what.

Also.... Shadow blade? Need I say anything?

I'm not trying to be harsh... but I'm going to accredit this build from watching some ****ty caster playing dota.

once again you be trolling guides that build differently from yours
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Numeta (27) | October 10, 2012 9:48pm
In his early items up to yasha, he only has + 46 damage with 5700 gold spent. If you don't have damage on sniper I don't know why you're picking him. And he doesn't skill shrapnel? I don't think this could be anymore worthless.

He could have an entire Eth blade or Orchid instead of all these small support items. Sniper is a carry, not a roamer, not a ganker. He farms, assassinates, farms more. Having a Drum will not stop you from dying. If you get caught on sniper you're dead no matter what.

Also.... Shadow blade? Need I say anything?

I'm not trying to be harsh... but I'm going to accredit this build from watching some ****ty caster playing dota.
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SuperNova (16) | October 10, 2012 8:06pm
Numeta wrote:

One of those ****ty draskyl builds.. .why am I not surprised

And your builds are better? 'laughs hysterically' yeah whatever, keep on trolling.
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Numeta (27) | October 10, 2012 10:35am
One of those ****ty draskyl builds.. .why am I not surprised
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Glayde (13) | October 10, 2012 8:36am
I think instead of a Circlet, get a Slippers of Agility at the beginning. Get one level of shrapnel early to push, harass, etc. and Desolater or Mjollnir are other luxury or even core items.
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