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Forum » Theory Crafting » Aghs Nature's Prophet 7 posts - page 1 of 1
Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Unscathed » October 13, 2014 7:11am | Report
Hello, Unscathed here. I just thought of this thread to ask about something.


As a person, I personally love underrated/non-mainstream stuffs. I was thinking the same about this, but I think its a good item overall.


For an item, this completely adds more pressure to enemy pushes. In addition, this can be easily used to counterpush 3 LANES AT ONCE. For example, you just pushed the top lane to the enemy T3s. Then you move in to bot to push the creep waves as well. Then your enemy pushes the creeps back to approximately their former T2s. With Wrath of Nature, you can push back the two lanes at once. I think it is a very great spell, and can be used to help ganks and be a global power overall. With Aghs, this spell became more powerful. The damage bonus itself may sound lackluster, but the true damage is from the bounce bonus damage. It wont clear most creep waves, but definitely weaken it to a point where your own creeps could win against them.


This is more of an extension/situational item for him when the enemies are really determined to counterpush you or where you want to push multiple lanes faster. In fact, Nature's Prophetis very well known for his global presence, and this underrated ultimate is actually a devastator. And with aghs, he is a pushing monster, taking 4 rax in just two minutes.


So what do you guys think about this? Is this actually a good item on Nature's Prophet?
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Hamstertamer » October 13, 2014 7:31am | Report
The only case I'd ever build an Aghs on Furion is if there are Zeus, Spectre, Bloodseeker and Ancient Apparition in my team.

As a pushing item, i's really lackluster. You already push really well without it. It only makes sense if you want global nuking power.

From the wiki : Maximum damage: 386/497/621(490/663/869)

It's actually pretty legit at max level making it potentially better than Thundergod's Wrath if you aim it wall from the opposite edge of the map. But then how do you get vision to use it well? That's why you need Spectre, BS or something to land a good ult, and some follow-up damage.

Really fun item for global strats but I don't think it's useful for anything else.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Timminatorr » October 13, 2014 8:12am | Report
Hamstertamer wrote:

The only case I'd ever build an Aghs on Furion is if there are Zeus, Spectre, Bloodseeker and Ancient Apparition in my team.

As a pushing item, i's really lackluster. You already push really well without it. It only makes sense if you want global nuking power.

From the wiki : Maximum damage: 386/497/621(490/663/869)

It's actually pretty legit at max level making it potentially better than Thundergod's Wrath if you aim it wall from the opposite edge of the map. But then how do you get vision to use it well? That's why you need Spectre, BS or something to land a good ult, and some follow-up damage.

Really fun item for global strats but I don't think it's useful for anything else.

this exactly.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by KrDotoBestDoto » October 13, 2014 9:33am | Report
IMO it can be a situational pickup if Mjollnir, Desolator and other pushing items are already completed. It's really strong if you have a rax disadvantage and don't want to tp back to base every 30 seconds.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Fumbles16x » October 13, 2014 12:01pm | Report
It needs a buff really badly. If it could damage structures it would probably be core.

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Fumbles16x wrote:

If it could damage structures it would probably be core.


You do realize how absurdly broken this is, right?
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Fumbles16x » October 13, 2014 2:51pm | Report
Hamstertamer wrote:



You do realize how absurdly broken this is, right?


Well yeah, obviously it couldn't just do the same amount of damage it does to heroes to the buildings :p

It would have to be reduced by half like Pugna's Q, and maybe it would be limited to 3 major buildings per use (so a tower and the rax, ideally). I don't see it being implemented simply because it would be so tricky to balance, but it's an interesting idea to make his ult better.

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