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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by 0128 » October 31, 2014 1:00am | Report
I just had a game with Ember Spirit , I had my BF at the 12 min mark and had some kills afterwards , I was telling our two supports to buy wards all the time but no one listened to me , we had an anti mage feeder , It was his first game online cuz he recieved a welcoming gift after the game , I had my Deadalus and BKB for that bloody silence and my second BF , in 3 team fights I got double kills just by using Flamig Fist two times , the game went terrible after that , I coulndt farm cuz we had no wards , and they roshed , our crystal didnt used her ultimate even once in the whole game , and Antimage kept feeding , GG , I had lots of games like this but this one was too damn bad
If I dont play well in a game or if I had some good allies I dont get angry if we lose , but it was one of my best ember spirits ever , and Im so mad but couldnt do anything .
Im searching for some friends for playing , plz add me if you have the same idea , MMR 2.7K
ID No : 128899799
Nick name : Have you seen a Viper ?!
oh and here is the dotabuff link of the game , you can see : http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/994003040

I play EU and sometimes Russia

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by KoDyAbAbA » October 31, 2014 1:11am | Report
They had brains; you thought you could win solely on brawns.

Dk made heavens halberd, which ****ed you up.

If the supports are not warding, you should. There is no shame. It's like 150 gold, which would be approximately 4 last hits.

they also made Heart of Tarrasques, which negated the damage you did to 3 of their core heroes by a lot.

Also, they tried to counter you with mass Blade Mails, which was cleverly thwarted by your Black King Bar purchase.

you had farm, your team didn't.

Let me guess when did you start flaming at antimage? minute 15-20? let me tell you something, you lost the game the moment you flamed him.Flaming has the kind of detrimental effect on the game that you don't see normally. It destroys a players self confidence as well as his will to go on and farm what he can.

Also weaver made Vanguard so thats a first.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by 0128 » October 31, 2014 1:36am | Report
you are right ,
but In the game I ALWAYS talk to players nice and friendly ( Ihave seen how it works ) , I encouraged him to farm more in the jungle and i bought wards for our jungle 2 times , I NEVER said he is noob or feeder in the whole game
and about items , its their very late game items , i could easily kill them before that ,
btw Im not saying Its all my team's fault , I know its a team game and all of us are part of it , I tried my best and that was not enough.
tnx for your comments
I was so angry when I wrote that post ! I always lose the games I play well !

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Bunkansee » October 31, 2014 12:02pm | Report
I must say, as an avid Crystal Maiden player I must tell you that her ultimate isn't the easiest to use, it is easily interrupted and you cannot just simply rush into the middle of a fight and use it. Although yes, she should have tried to use it, I can say for a fact that there have been I few times where I have wondered whether to use my ult in this fight or not. I have no clue whether this guy has played cm before or not, but either way her ultimate takes a little good positioning and practice to get used to. I do agree that she should have at least tried to use it however.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Nubtrain » October 31, 2014 2:28pm | Report
Alright everybody has had bad games and gets frustrated every so often. Let's focus on improving your own play so you don't have to play with these type of players. So I've decided to download your replay and watch it. Only going to analyse your play and provide feedback so please don't try to take offense, only trying to help you.

You did not block your creep wave since you decided you wanted to get the rune spawn. Luckily Clockwerk either failed his block or didn't block at all. You never tried to maintain lane equilbrium on your side and you never tried to push the lane to get the runes then force Clockwerk to decide if he wants to contest rune or defend tower. For the majority of the early game you let Clockwerk take most of the runes and you've made zero effort to gank. You didn't buy a tp to counter-gank lanes and you don't have a bottle to recover from trades against Clock or to store runes.

You didn't buy Bottle but instead bought Boots of Speed first at 3 mins but I understand why you thought you didn't need it, cm aura and tangoes. However it becomes apparent later that if you had it, you would've lived some encounters.

At around 10:20 DK stayed bot and died even though the enemy team saw you heading towards them even though the DK had little mana and close to half hp while beginning to tank tower. This tells me that this game was very low level.

Around 13:20 If you had a bottle, you would've saved the regeneration rune and tp'd top if you also bought 2 tps at the side lane when you ganked DK bot. Why I mention this? Lack of efficiency, since you went back to base and tp'd top anyways.

You got a kill onto PL and then with your team started to push top. At around 14:46 you and your team got a kill on BM, which is nice but...

At around 15:40 If you had bottle you would've lived longer if you had the hp and mana before diving top. You didn't have enough mana for Flame Guard and that alone would've saved you. You thought your BF regeneration and aura was enough but you didn't calculate how many mana you needed to dive top.

Later, you went to the mid jungle entrance even though you saw DK at mid and briefly Drow showed up, that should've indicated to you to back off. Either way you decide, that was a poor route to take and luckily you didn't die there since Drow decided to go for AM.

You saw AM being ganked and you were overconfident at around 20:00 that you could solo both BM and Clock with no mana. You thought Flame Guard was enough to protect you and take them down but that was not the case.

At 26:30, you saw BM there. Why did you go towards the direction of your t1 tower? If you continued walking up the hill next to the Ancients area or to the rune spot, you wouldn't have been caught out.

At around 28:30 you teammates were ganked and started jungling at top. I know your tp was on cooldown for a few seconds so the better thing to do was not go jungle but push top. Force at least one of the enemy heroes to tp back, making their push at bot weaker and then easier for you to kill them.

At around 39 mins, you got two kills by spamming Sleight of Fist thanks to lucky crits. You got overconfident once again and got caught out by BM after your failed SF+SC combo. You were so far out your tower so why did you think it was fine to be overconfident like that? Clock had aghs and BM didn't use his ultimate when they ganked Weaver.

You went for Black King Bar which is ok but a Linken's Sphere and/or a Manta Style would of been better. Your only problem was DK's stun and Drow's silence so Linkens would of blocked that with Manta removing debuffs like silence. If you had made one defensive Fire Remnant per fight, you would have avoided a good portion of your deaths. You couldn't do that either since you were going to have mana issues since you had low mana capacity but not sure if you realized it since you probably thought CM aura was enough.

So far you have not made a single defensive Fire Remnants after getting caught out often. Don't think of the ones you cast after you get caught, the ones you cast at a safe area before going into an unsafe area, a gank or teamfight.

Zero ganks because you decided you want to rush Battlefury instead of trying to help gank or counter-gank the other lanes. You also have a bad habit of making double remnants without actually hitting targets with them.

You also have a problem of not checking your opponent's items, you would've made a better decision if you wanted to gank someone or buying items to respond to their item choices like Dust of Appearance for Drow.

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So here's a TL:DR of things you should focus on improving on
  • Improve your decision making
  • Check your opponent's items
  • Don't get overconfident
  • Learn to balance farm and ganking
  • Get into a habit of making defensive remnants

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by 0128 » October 31, 2014 9:50pm | Report
Wow ! You downloaded it ! and you watched it ! Its just amazing , thank you so much for spending your time focusing on the game and helping me to be a better player , you have mentioned almost all of my faults , bad decisions and poor play , when I write the post I just wanted to calm down a bit and see if there is someone eager to play ,I didnt expect anyone to care about the game at all , but you really analyzed the game trying to show me the key points and ways of improving myself , Im so happy.
you are right about what you said , and the things I should say :
I know Im not really an ember spirit player I just like him. everytime I try bottle and gank I have terrible mana problems and its on the nerve , so in this game i had decided to rush BF ,
and you know that making right decisions in the game is so hard and need lots of practice and experience which I definitely have not enough since Im not a pro gamer ( school problems ! ).
i think my biggest problem is that I dont know what to do , I check enemy items , I ask my teammates about how to fight against them, and etc , but Its hard to make the right choice for me , anothr bad thing is I dont like to change my item builds usually, I mean I dont use a variety of items in games ( not pro ! ).
Sure I have more basic things to learn , but I really dont have the time , you put yourself in my position and see if can do better than me ! :D ( not in this particular game ).
you know analyzing a replay after game and thinking about making right choices s something different.
its been a month since I had this problem with my wifi and my ping is something like 200 or more. ( I couldnt react or do well in game thats too bad and affects everything even my item build and things like not blocking creep waves , gankings and ... things that need to be fast, or using some active items and abilities )
anyway thank you again for everything. :D

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by KoDyAbAbA » October 31, 2014 10:02pm | Report
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Smuggels » November 2, 2014 8:37pm | Report
hey man i love ember and have ... a fair few games with him.

ember isnt a hard carry. to play ember successfully you need to remove that thinking from your head cause i hate it when i see ember players farming all the early game.

he is at heart a ganker. ganking ganking ganking.

ember has AMAZING damage potential early game. like insane damage. the problem?

no mana to sustain it.

build your bottle get brown boots then finish a drum of endurance or a ring of aquila (i prefer drum it has better synergy)

then finish your phase and then start on your bf.

you need to be ganking from level 5 if i get a haste rune at the 4 minute mark i will go gank.

ember snowballs really hard so if you can get drums phase bottle and bf by 25 mins. you will win game (barring idiotic team mates.)

Also

BUY TP's

once you have drums bottle you have infinite sustain. just spirit out, tp to base regen all the way up. spirit back.

ive done it in the middle of fights and come back in and got rampages.

http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/972581120
http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/995000695

but all in all i saw some of your other ember games and some were well played (looking at the stats)

I WILL DESTROY YOU ALL.... WITH FLUFFY BUNNIES


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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by 0128 » November 4, 2014 6:36am | Report
You are totally right I need to use this item build and gank like you said . I will definitely try that . thank you so much !!
unfortunately I wont be able to play Dota for some days , ( some tests I really need to be ready for ) .
and another thing is ... ummmm . I had a game with TA , and we lost it again although I played much better than I expected , http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/997939798
I ganked them successfully and tried to buy more time but I dont know what was wrong with our hard carries PL and Faceless void ( although I told them to pick just one hard carry , but they didnt listen to me ) I dont expect anyone to download and watch it , just wanted to say that these kind of games happens a lot to me !

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