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When I see teams draft I see their draft being 2 things, an entire strategy (mostly push: lone, veno, lycan, brood and np or teamfight: enigma, warlock, void, puck and tide) or heroes they see picked by pro players (used to be a lot of nyx+naga, currently not so much).
When I usually draft I like to keep in mind the heroes who are LONG forgotten, but still way to good to pass up when none of the dendei heroes fit your team.
: He offers your team a lot of versatility, while being able to mid or support he can be picked up as a fifth pick (also good counter to slark and alchemist). He combines well with a carry+a support with a disable. He offers great teamfight as well.
: This hero offers a lot of teamfight and gank, while lackingBURST. His ult and field can just wipe teams, while glimpse can be a really hard to deal with spell. He is a good combo with aa and who are on this list as well.
: This hero used to be the go to support, but I still think he is amazing. His stun is hard to compare to anything else, because it's so GOOD. He can offer very high teamfight and great aggressive lanes. He is also really tanky (something a lot of supports aren't).
: This hero is currently really underrated, but my friends love him, so I draft him. He has a LOT of disable, while also being able to BURST somebody down really quick. The way we like playing him is getting him his level 6 secured than looking for 100% kills.
: The way we just ran this hero is solo safe lane while we had an agressive tri, and boy is it GOOD! He has to farm his quick arcane, mek and vlad's and you WILL win fights. His heal is super strong and his magic immunity is WAY undervalued.
: He is my personal support, who while being melee has a lot of damage, and steroids in the late-game. While being tanky trough the entire game. His roams are really deadly even at level 1 or 2.
: He IS the most underrated support of all, while being squishy he has the best stun in the game, a great heal, a HUGE damage amplify and a team-wiping ult. I personally don't get why people don't use him.

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I once go with Witch Doctor and Lich. I threw the poison cast while he went chain frost.Total two men team wipe. It might because that they were under farmed, but still we killed all of them.

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Think the problem with both WD and AA is that they can be both tremedously effective, or almost useless depending on the situation. when you're getting chased by 1 hero is practically useless...same with throwing it out during a team fight at a tower as it randomly bounces some creeps. Alternatively you might get 4 seconds of perfect stun and 200 damage each to two heroes.

might be 300 damage and 3.5 seconds of stun...or 50 odd damage and no stun at all. (I agree btw that is underrated, that's 450 damage for a trilane at level 1).

can work wonders with the right combinations (him and is pretty awesome, but that's a weird, weird lane to setup), and much more farm than a standard support is likely to get. Do the team really want their 4 rushing a or a ? Not a tough one, that. He's awesome combined with and ...but how often do you see them in a competitive game?

Basically both of them are generally consider "too inconsistent" for high level play, as although their high points are better than their rivals, their low points are much lower too. Generally people want supports to be as reliable as possible.

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I personally hate playing , even though I have good results with him: his stun is only good for pushing (low stun duration, so not good for ganking unless there are only two enemy units close to each other, decent in teamfights but the enemy carry will most likely have a BKB and make it useless against him), but the + combo is so strong. You can succesfully deplete 1/3 of the enemy HP with a level 3-4 Maledict and an Urn charge.
Still, since WD is a really bad roamer and ganker, I don't see him as a viable pick; his lack of survivability and his (very easy to stop) ultimate that makes you vulnerable are also a disadvantage.

Nothing to say about , , and , I like all of them. On the other side, is a bad core Hero but still needs some farm in order to be effective; I can see him as a viable off-laner if you need a fast , but he doesn't deal much damage in teamfights and ganks (though his utility makes up for it).

And lastly, about : I think he's a really situational and lane-dependent Hero. If you don't have a global team, even if you want to counter a or there are better picks ( on top of the list); on the contrary, if your team consists of , , or the ultimate helps a lot. And about being lane-dependent, I think pairing him with a or any other stunner is a must-do unless you want to play very passively.
Another thing I noticed is that everyone underestimates : it's actually a fantastic ability (the most useful on AA for me), the damage increase at level 1 is a lot. Perfect if you want to kill Roshan at level 1 or if you want to simplify early ganks and lane kills: particularly, playing with an is the best way to make it work because of constant Roshan kills and the ability (which removes the drawback of .

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Waiting for buff, probably for (making it more reliable for him to be a better supp instead of a mediocre mid) or for be reworked a bit.

Maybe make this into an "underrated heroes" section instead of "underrated supports"? Just for the content, it can help a lot in drafting.

isn't picked much because he does not have "the best stun in the game", his W heal is hard to sustain while being a support AND using your other skills efficiently, his E is hard to land and his R is nice but it's chanelling and is mostly single target.

This post just shows how balanced of a game dota 2 is. nice work.

EDIT: Oh, and consider adding , , support , , , , , , and (assuming you want to keep this as "supports only" drafting tips.

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I agree completely that heroes aren't necessarily good or bad depending on whether the pro's are currently picking them or not - it's far more to do with how they are being used than anything else.

I like AA, but he's pretty situational, really needs a good trilane to be effective. is fantastic if you can land it, but can be shrugged off by many heroes and powers. I especially like him against as can become a liability for him, also .

- massively effective against certain offlaners (, Windrunner, poss ). If they get even vaguely out of position after level 2 then their escape won't be much help.

[{Witch Doctor]] - remember this being discussed a while ago, he has some great attributes, but is quite needy in terms of backup/equipment compared to most supports. Also squishy as hell. However, I think he makes a great 4 in the right situations, e.g. paired with armour reducers, some hard carries etc.

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