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The recent buff to has seen a whole swarm of former players scuttling out of the woodwork. The thing is that the buff mostly just improves her mobility and chances of surviving ganks - a lot of what she already has is the same - as is often the case with "buffs" the effects are psychological as much as anything.

With some decent broods finally strutting their stuff, it's a good time to look at how to do well in lane against her. Many pubbers have probably never seen a good Brood in action and have merely laughed at the antics of randomers trying to play her.

+ Invisibility, pass uncrossable terrain and high movement speed in web
+ Great extra health regeneration in web
+ Can block or farm jungle camps with spiderlings

- Poor base damage
- No stun
- Mana dependent

The main thing to bear in mind is how dangerous and spiderlings themselves can be if you haven't got the tools to deal with them. They may not do much damage individually, but a big mass of them can eat squishy heroes with poor armour, are faster than most heroes without boots, and take a long time to be killed by the tower (allowing Brood herself to dive).

If Brood gets off to get a good start, gets a lot of spiderlings, and then gets some kills it can almost be "abandon lane!" time...and when your dual safe lane vs solo goes bad the rest of your team is probably going to be in trouble too. Towers start falling rapidly, your carry is underfarmed...uh it gets ugly, fast.

So how do you stop her?

1) Get a hero with cheap early AOE damage. You can turn Brood's spiderlings into an opportunity for bonus gold/xp if you have the right skills to deal with them easily. If neither partner has spammable AOE damage then you can end up in real difficulty. And it has to be "proper" AOE (i.e. everything in the area takes full damage) not just "hits multiple targets".

2) If you're a support, get starting Sentry Ward even if it means not getting . I know it happens a lot that you end up with 1 support on a team when you should have 2, and you can't buy a courier and both kinds of wards. It's tough, your team are actually gonna have to help themselves for a change, this is more important.

3) Deny as much as possible early on, and in combination with the sentry wards try to drive her away from the creep line. She has poor base damage and needs mana regeneration for spiderlings (usually a ). You probably won't be able to drive her off the lane completely as there are so many places she can hide and get XP, but if you stop her getting much early farm you can delay her and make her much less effective.

Some Good Heroes to counter her:

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(Any carry with good AOE is an option here, but these heroes have cheap, spammable ones)

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Usable: (either mana and/or squishiness issues)

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(22) |

I am surprised that you did not list two of the best spiderite killers. Pudges rot has a zero second cool down and Meepo can net the spiders, walk up and poof for 200 free gold.

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The passing impassable terrain is frigging annoying but 's or 's amplify damage combined with a ranged disable (to stop her from running/TP:ing away) and ranged DPS can take her down.

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(118) |

Any hero with a decent AOE spell can be good (Alchy, DP, Bat, etc) - but I think you can have big problems against a good brood player if your lane lacks one.

Her role has become a little clearer since the patch - she's not (and has never really been) a proper ganker or carry. But, she's a strong pushing semi-carry and midgame can be a massive problem if she got a good start. There's not many heroes who can dominate the offlane solo as hard as her (given the right plays and situation).

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No one says she's OP, but as for now i think it's a very big mistake to underestimate her, i played a game some days ago against a solo broodmather (all random mode), i was top radiant and we didn't have any way to destroy trees, she put her webs all along our trees lane almost till the T3, calling the courrier was not fun anymore, not an overwelming problem, she didn't snipe it once,but still something more to pay attention!XD

Btw i think Death profeth should be a good call against Broodmother, good and cheap Aoe nuke and ultimate too can be of use.

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(28) |

For every patch comes a hero that is declared OP and in reality, is not.

, imo is one of those heroes. While her W is better now, that does not make:

-Her spiderlings that good (which is what should've been buffed tbh. It characterizes her more)

-Her awkward role less awkward (supposedly a carry, but rarely gets enough DPS to actually be scary)

While the buff was ok, it did not make her more inclined to a carry or a full-on pushing offlane hero, giving her better escape options, juking and ganking through this and while the former two were fine, the third was definitely unncessary because it's not what a Brood is supposed to be doing.

I'm pretty sure her ulti is still purgeable so I think should get a mention because it's her sole late game presence besides her spiderlings which could die in a flash.

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(46) |

Put in Some Others. He can destroy trees and catch up to to use , and his also destroy the spiderlings.

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(118) |

Please add any other thoughts about playing or countering Brood!

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