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No matter how good you are at support, can you reliably win?

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Forum » General Discussion » No matter how good you are at support, can you reliably win? 28 posts - page 2 of 3
Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Peppo_oPaccio » June 10, 2014 11:06am | Report
I forgot to say, if you can group up with one or two friends playing support is actually gamechaging. I don't like playing "roaming support", but I do like playing a ganking duo: with a good teammate, a Smoke of Deceit and some communication, a duo like Shadow Demon and Dazzle, Shadow Demon and Leshrac or Shadow Demon and Wraith King (did I forget Shadow Demon?) can go anywhere getting kills and forcing towers. The third friend can play the carry role, just to ensure nobody flames you for not babysitting them.

Oh, there are good roaming duos even without SD: Venomancer and Leshrac, Vengeful Spirit and Rubick, Shadow Shaman and Chen... Basically everyone that has a stun paired up with another disabler.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by BKvoiceover » June 10, 2014 2:15pm | Report
Quoted:

I forgot to say, if you can group up with one or two friends playing support is actually gamechaging. I don't like playing "roaming support", but I do like playing a ganking duo: with a good teammate, a Smoke of Deceit and some communication, a duo like Shadow Demon and Dazzle, Shadow Demon and Leshrac or Shadow Demon and Wraith King (did I forget Shadow Demon?) can go anywhere getting kills and forcing towers. The third friend can play the carry role, just to ensure nobody flames you for not babysitting them.

Oh, there are good roaming duos even without SD: Venomancer and Leshrac, Vengeful Spirit and Rubick, Shadow Shaman and Chen... Basically everyone that has a stun paired up with another disabler.


^ This

Another lovely laning and ganking duo that I love to play is Sand King and Vengeful Spirit as the double stun provides a lot of utility during ganks.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by FleetAU » June 10, 2014 3:17pm | Report
best combo ever is Shadow Demon and Centaur Warrunner , stampede up(if needed), disrupt, shiny shadow demon spell I forgot the name of the amps damage, Hoof Stomp then Double Edge

can also use anything else required of course like shadow demon ult for example

kills all the average-squishy heroes and some tanky ones
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Coded Binary » June 12, 2014 4:08am | Report
So, basically, I need to play roaming supports, gank mid a lot, and play in matchmaking and get a coach. Thank you for helping me guys. Should I play people like shadow shaman? Even most pubbers can understand to attack the guy not attacking.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Xyrus » June 12, 2014 5:22am | Report
Coded Binary wrote:

So, basically, I need to play roaming supports, gank mid a lot, and play in matchmaking and get a coach.

All good ideas, just make sure that your Carry isn't going to die while you Gank Mid.
Coded Binary wrote:

Should I play people like shadow shaman? Even most pubbers can understand to attack the guy not attacking.

Yes, because many pub players are too dumb to Push while Towers and Rax are wide open, so it's best if you are capable of Pushing by yourself.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by William » June 13, 2014 1:50am | Report
FleetAU wrote:

best combo ever is Shadow Demon and Centaur Warrunner , stampede up(if needed), disrupt, shiny shadow demon spell I forgot the name of the amps damage, Hoof Stomp then Double Edge

can also use anything else required of course like shadow demon ult for example

kills all the average-squishy heroes and some tanky ones


That shiny spell is Soul Catcher.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Ab4ddon._.E43 » June 13, 2014 2:56am | Report
My advice just keep on playing support, the world needs you.

Support is the most crucial, satisfying and many times dissapointing role to play, but damn winning games though support is awesome, just remembered my lion game killing every lane, getting kills to my offlaner veno till the point that none of their lanes had 1 penny of farm, that's satisfaction.

Just look at that damage, more than my entire team put together
I am the Abaddon *****!!!

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Zerosaviour » June 13, 2014 3:56am | Report

My advice just keep on playing support, the world needs you.

Support is the most crucial, satisfying and many times dissapointing role to play, but damn winning games though support is awesome, just remembered my lion game killing every lane, getting kills to my offlaner veno till the point that none of their lanes had 1 penny of farm, that's satisfaction.

Just look at that damage, more than my entire team put together


Yep. A good carry is a dime a dozen. Yet good support is worth its weight in gold.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Allegiance » June 13, 2014 5:02am | Report
Weeeeell, playing a good support is ****ing difficult. There are way too many players who dont know jack**** about supporting and yet they think it was the rest of their team who ****ed up. Thus they don't support anymore, because they are the only ones able to carry.

Be careful about roaming support and ganking a lot. You can't do it 24/7 and in every game. Sure, it helps out your midlane and maybe offlane somtimes, but it also might **** up your safelane farmer, if you leave him on his own. You need a lot of knowledge of the game to actually play an effective support. Sometimes there is just no use in roaming, because it is almost impossible to actually get a kill. (esp in pubs)
While it is easy to kill certain heroes mid, some are just extremely diffult to bring down. Also, if your midlaner just pushes like a crazy person, it can also be very difficult, to set up a gank.
If your safelane is up against a duallane or very strong sololane, leaving your carry alone sucks donkey ***. (especially if you didn't zone him out properly and he outleveled your carry)
This is something you see way too often in pubs. Supports just kinda afk leech XP on the lane and then leave to gank, while the offlaner is a few levels ahead of your carry.
They proceed with calling the carry noob, because he has no farm and maybe died against the offlaner.
There's also way too many people, who have no freaking idea, when to pull and when not to pull, which can also **** up the lane pretty heavily.

Just a few things I wanted to point out here t.t
It really bugs me that new players are mostly recommnded to play support. It is a really *******d hard job!

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Xyrus » June 13, 2014 5:41am | Report
Allegiance wrote:

It really bugs me that new players are mostly recommnded to play support. It is a really *******d hard job!

Yeah, but you can't trust the other 4 guys to do it sadly... ._.

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