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Last hitting help with Spectre? And lane choice?

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by F.E.A.R.0 » February 17, 2014 2:27pm | Report
compgenie wrote:

Okay, will do so when I next encounter them :)
Also what about Viper? Vanguard? Or what else?


No not Vanguard on Viper it's outdated. Buy a Mekansm instead of Vanguard.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by compgenie » February 17, 2014 2:40pm | Report
Okay then, thanks!
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Xyrus » February 17, 2014 2:44pm | Report
F.E.A.R.0 wrote:

No not Vanguard on Viper it's outdated. Buy a Mekansm instead of Vanguard.

This ^

It provides pretty much the same level of survivability as a Vanguard, but benefits your entire Team. Just make sure that no one else on the Team is building one, especially in low-skill Pubs where everyone expects you to build Shadow Blade + Damage Items.

After that, some good options are Black King Bar to avoid getting Disabled (except against abilities that ignore Magic Immunity, e.g. Fiend's Grip, Doom, etc.), Aghanim's Scepter so you can use your Ult more than once in a Teamfight, Manta Style for Illusionsm, Stats and Movement Speed, or even a Heart of Tarrasque for Tankiness.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Glenn T » February 17, 2014 3:02pm | Report
Blink Dagger on Viper instead of Shadow Blade. Legit?
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by L0bstz0r » February 17, 2014 3:27pm | Report
if you build Aghanim's Scepter there isnt really any reason to go for a initiation item like Blink Dagger or Shadow Blade since the cast-range of your ult is huge. as xyrus already said: Black King Bar, Aghanim's Scepter and Manta Style are the usual core choices for Viper. Personally i can also recommend Orchid Malevolence.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by F.E.A.R.0 » February 17, 2014 4:14pm | Report
L0bstz0r wrote:

if you build Aghanim's Scepter there isnt really any reason to go for a initiation item like Blink Dagger or Shadow Blade since the cast-range of your ult is huge. as xyrus already said: Black King Bar, Aghanim's Scepter and Manta Style are the usual core choices for Viper. Personally i can also recommend Orchid Malevolence.


Even I recommend Orchid Malevolence. My core build is: Phase Boots, Mekansm, Orchid Malevolence, Aghanim's Scepter and Manta Style. Black King Bar situational against disables, silence and other stuff.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by F.E.A.R.0 » February 17, 2014 4:15pm | Report
Xyrus wrote:


This ^

It provides pretty much the same level of survivability as a Vanguard, but benefits your entire Team. Just make sure that no one else on the Team is building one, especially in low-skill Pubs where everyone expects you to build Shadow Blade + Damage Items.

After that, some good options are Black King Bar to avoid getting Disabled (except against abilities that ignore Magic Immunity, e.g. Fiend's Grip, Doom, etc.), Aghanim's Scepter so you can use your Ult more than once in a Teamfight, Manta Style for Illusionsm, Stats and Movement Speed, or even a Heart of Tarrasque for Tankiness.


And while you will pick up Heart of Tarrasque, buying Daedalus will make your damage pure.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by sulaxrox » February 17, 2014 10:58pm | Report
To add to this, you can do this effectively in an off-lane position, considering it's far less farm than your 1 & 2 slot heroes need, while still being very effective. Aghs on viper is gross, 7 sec CD and you're spitting deadly poison into 3-4 heroes a fight.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Ancient Hero » February 18, 2014 1:05am | Report
its 12 sec btw. IMO, orchid isnt thtat good since you get enough mana from aghs already.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by compgenie » February 18, 2014 12:17pm | Report
How good is a K/D/A of 13/4/9 with Shadow Fiend?
Just got that score with just my second game with him :3
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