Dark Seer Build

Kyfoid if you want a pacy hero why don't you just play the naturally pacey hereos? Like Razor or the ones who go the race car build like Juggernaut or Lifestealer.

I really think there should be a game mode to switch out one skill for any other skill of heroes that have not yet been picked.

Nothing to the extreme of dota legends (which I have never played)

But just one skill for another.

I think most people would switch out a skill for dark seer's ion shell or alchemists green AoE thing.


Some heroes are just really hard to farm with and so people don't get a real chance to really like the character because they never so make it to the items that the character was ultimately meant for.

Other then that... it's easy to understand why a character like dragon knight would use an item like a vanguard, it functions well with this dragon blood passive....

On the other hand, it's easy to understand why a character like lich king would get a mechanism, because frost armor works so well with the armor aura / healing.

But when it comes to a character like dark seer who can farm so well, and actually steal kills.... What to get with all that gold?

Just a mass inventory of support aura effects?

Vanguard is a ****ty item that no hero should go chances are. As DK you normally go treads,drums, bkb. You get a mek on lich but not on DS? DS is probably the best mek carrier in game right now, thats what you get with the gold. Then somehting like shivas, sheep, or blink.

Alchemits "green AOE thingy" isnt good either. Its his ulti thats whats good. If you get ion shell, I just counter pick with repel.

Also some heros are hard to farm with since they are known as something very mysterious that doesnt exist in the world of dagon/phase dark seers-a support!

You also forgo vacuum, which is a such a good spell. It can set up any aoe combo i.e vac into alch stun.

Kyfoid. Seriously. Dark Seer comes with a freaking Surge that gives max move speed.

Look, even Wulfstan offering you a fight just take it.

And prove us wrong

Please let me stream that. I don't want a 2 minute delay

Alchemist's green AOE thingy is like the best AOE thingy in the game.

Seriously though, heroes' skills are built around each other, so there really is no bad spell. Acid Spray isn't that good but when you think that it synergizes with the physical damage of Unstable Concoction and it helps farm the jungle/ancients, it doesn't sound that bad.

Also, switching out even 1 spell would create some serious balance issues.

Just to switch out one of the q w or e, not the ultimate or anything.

Its not like Impetus+take aim means enchantress more powerful. Or giving blink to certain heros. It still will make some heros op and as samu said, their spellsets are suppose synergize so taking a spell out would most likely ruin it. It also affects balance a ton.