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Forum » General Discussion » Change Helm of the Dominator 19 posts - page 1 of 2
Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Kyfoid » June 23, 2013 11:16am | Report
I personally and truly think that a mistake was made on helm of the dominator and that the recipe to make it should be something like 2x helms of iron will and NOT helm of iron will + morbid mask.

All 3 of the masks have a morbid mask as part of their recipe but most of the characters that would potentially want a helm of the dominator do not need the life steal on morbid mask, nor the complete helm.

Why?

There are already 2 masks that have a morbid mask as their recipe and serve a damage style approach.

Us heroes who are striving for more of a defensive/supportive approach do not do much physical damage, which means the life steal does little to nothing when you have to purchase it to make dominator, nor does the ending life steal on the complete helm.

If you want to be super offensive, you just make a MoM.

If you want to be moderately offensive with the most valuable stats +17% damage and mana regen, for an offensive team support.

But if you want to be defensive and defensive support, you are suppose to choose helm of the dominator.

Solution:

The recipe for helm of the dominator should probably be 2x helm of iron will....

Dominator could still be made in to a satanic and have 25% life steal, that does not have to change.

Key Point: If you notice, when you complete the helm of the dominator, you lose the 3 life regen that was on the helm of iron will.

If it took two helms of iron will to make a dominator, the life leach should be removed and replaced with + 5 life regen, + 8 armor and 20 damage, something like that....

It is excrutiatingly hard to be defensive in this game, and sometimes I almost feel like the creator put morbid mask as part of the recipe so that players couldn't be too defensive...

After you get dominator you can steal the ogre magi neutral creep and cast frost armor 10 x with his 400 mana, for + 8 armor and less attack/movement speed for enemies that hit you.

Again, I really think that morbid mask should an additional helm of iron will to make dominator instead... Makes much more progressive sense for the outcome you are trying to achieve.


I guess Veil could count as some kind of mask but it is meant more for mana/intellegence oriented heroes, not really for tanking.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Wulfstan » June 23, 2013 11:20am | Report
Why the **** should I buy HotD on a support?

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Kyfoid » June 23, 2013 11:27am | Report
It is individually defensive which is what is is suppose to be, but when you control the most powerful neutral creep in the game (Ogre magi), the magi can sit at a safe location and cast frost armor on the whole team before charging out in to a battle.

45 second duration on it, and 5 second cooldown.


You use a mask when you want to chase someone down with movement speed to steal life....

But it's too hard to be fast on a melee hero to be aggressive and steal any life, especially when you aren't a damage doer.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Wulfstan » June 23, 2013 11:30am | Report
Kyfoid wrote:

It is individually defensive which is what is is suppose to be, but when you control the most powerful neutral creep in the game (Ogre magi), the magi can sit at a safe location and cast frost armor on the whole team before charging out in to a battle.

45 second duration on it, and 5 second cooldown.


You use a mask when you want to chase someone down with movement speed to steal life....

But it's too hard to be fast on a melee hero to be aggressive and steal any life, especially when you aren't a damage doer.


What is the connection between frost armor and the ****ing lifesteal from HotD?And why should I buy, again, HotD on a support?Supports don't need lifesteal, they need Mekansm.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Kyfoid » June 23, 2013 11:35am | Report
That's the thing, it's not truly supportive despite controlling creeps, which I think provides merely some way to be supportive instead of directly supportive.

Individually Defensive is the concept I am talking about, not really cooperatively.

Just tell me what other complete item in the game takes something away from the stats of the item it is composed of?

With dominator, you lose 3 life regen. I think that is kind of *********.

If you can show me another item that doesn't take something away from the item it is made out of, then I might relax...

But life regen, and life steal are two totally different approaches to how you want to do things, and I really think that this hinders quite harshly the direction one may be trying to progress his character toward.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Wulfstan » June 23, 2013 11:37am | Report
But you do not need it , you can just get a Mekansm,and it stays the same+ the AoE heal it provides.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Kyfoid » June 23, 2013 11:37am | Report
"Our biggest problem is a perfection of means and a confusion of aims" -Einstein

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Kyfoid » June 23, 2013 11:39am | Report
Wulfstan wrote:

But you do not need it , you can just get a Mekansm,and it stays the same+ the AoE heal it provides.


But that's supportive defensive...

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Wulfstan » June 23, 2013 12:08pm | Report
Its rather the same thing, don't you think?You don't need to be agressive with a hero like Crystal Maiden, or you will melt instantly(no pun intended).

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