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Forum » General Discussion » BrewMaster The most complete character and build in the game 54 posts - page 1 of 6
Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Kyfoid » June 18, 2013 3:09pm | Report
Been looking for that character I can all stat with but uses an item to make meaningful use of the extra mana.

Brewmaster is an outrageous tank, and my progressive boot approach has got me dominating the hell out of the early game against teams, but his ultimate is complex to the point that I almost only use it to chase guys down.... Just don't know him well enough. That life regen helps deal with magic damage while the rest of what he is about is dealing with physical carries.

Yeah, I actually start by maxing his passive back and forth with the ground slam...

Start with ring of health regen and ring of armor, grab the tranq boots, then mask of madness, maybe even grab power treads, then go farm dagon, then go all stats and upgrade dagon accordingly... which means drums.

So if I, at this point have MoM, Tranqs, Power Treads, dagon, can trade out tranquility for a drum, and another drum of endurance, and for the most complete feeling character can end with a shadow blade... or if mana is still not being spent that will could get shadow blade earlier since shadow blade + dagon seems to be the best way to spend mana...

Anyways, it's kind of irritating knowing that you can get dagon with in a range of soul ring, but not being able to key coordinate dagon with MoM and soul ring....

Anyways, I promise that it will feel like the most complete character you've ever played, very dominating.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by porygon361 » June 18, 2013 5:22pm | Report
Actually, this item build is not that bad (except for the Dagon). Mask of Madness gives him more attack speed to proc his criticals, Power Treads give him more attack speed, which helps with more crits, and gives the almighty tread switch. Drums is also really good on him, due to his **** mana pool and also gives attack speed (a trend along many of his items). However, I think his mana problems can be solved simply with a bottle (assuming you are mid) or Arcane Boots, and Dagon is not needed. I agree that Dagon can be put on every hero, but sometimes its not worth the cost. Its really up to personal preference.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Hades4u » June 18, 2013 11:13pm | Report
Tranquil Boots and Mask of Madness take mana when you activate them. You already have mana problems, so this build isn't very viable. Maybe in very low skilled pubs.
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Ab4ddon._.E43 » June 19, 2013 12:54am | Report
MoM isnt a good item for brew.
He relies on his slow and ulti majorly for dmg. All aura items work for him and synergize well with his ulti.
Arcanes drums aghs vlads ac rad our all good items for him. Necrobook is a situational
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by thippo » June 19, 2013 1:43am | Report
What do you even mean by "complete character"?

What do you mean "that character that I can all stat with"? I thought you had meant getting all your points in stats, which is literally not possible to do, until you talked about your passive and your slam.

Why two boots? Why not disassemble the tranqs?

Why in the hell are you going dual drums?

Why Dagon? Like, really, why? You're a right clicker, even in this build, Dagon is a huge waste of money that you could deal the same damage with. Unless, and I wouldn't been this surprised, you're using it entirely to ks.

"Anyways, it's kind of irritating knowing that you can get dagon with in a range of soul ring, but not being able to key coordinate dagon with MoM and soul ring...."
What does that even mean?

As Hades said, this is only going to work when your opponents have no sense at all.

If this is a complete build, the writing sure as hell isn't complete, considering I couldn't decipher half of what you were saying, and the other half had me confused as to why anyone would do that. You seem to go out of your way to say the dumbest things, just for the sake of being deviant. I could well be wrong, but holy **** you are the idol of anti-comformists. This, like literally all the other things I have seen you say, makes absolutely no sense.

Again, I'm entirely willing to take back all I said if you would post a replay. Hell, even if it's just a replay of Unfair mode bots, that'll at least show what you're doing with what and why you're doing it, because as is no one can seem to understand any of those with your "complete" build being so oxymoronically incomplete. Even if the build still makes absolutely no sense after the replay, at least show me up and post one. I'm begging you, I want to see what you meant, and I want to see it work/fail miserably, and I can't do it myself because... well... I can't even decode this madness.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by samukobo » June 19, 2013 3:08am | Report
Dum dum dum dum. Another Kyfoid post.

How can a hero be complete? How can you recommend double boots, multiple drums and dagon and Shadow blade instead of.... well, pretty much everything else you would build on this hero?
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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by porygon361 » June 19, 2013 3:48am | Report
samukobo wrote:

Dum dum dum dum. Another Kyfoid post.

How can a hero be complete? How can you recommend double boots, multiple drums and dagon and Shadow blade instead of.... well, pretty much everything else you would build on this hero?


True. There is no Assault Cuirass, Blink Dagger, Heart of Tarrasque, or many of his core items. 2 boots are still not justifiable, I believe.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Ancient Hero » June 19, 2013 8:57am | Report
Or aghs as brew relies heavily on his ulti in teamfights.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by Kyfoid » June 19, 2013 1:21pm | Report
Okay so my approach with brewmaster has been a work in learning progress but I can see the light in how he can do justice to the title of this thread.

So please critique this thread and if it sparks your interest, try what I'm saying with him.

Changes to my approach and concepts behind them.

Skill build: Start now with drunken brawler and go back and forth between drunken haze and brawler.

1 point in his ulti cause it's not that great.

maybe 1 point in to his slam, but the slam is most effective with the shadow blade as a mass initiator.

Rest in to stats.

Dagon does work on him with this build, but it just seems hard to do much significant with him for the team, aside from take harassment and spam drunken hazes.... seems that the shadow blade is quite important.

My last game I had Tranq boots, power treads, MoM, got to a level 3 dagon that did actually get me a few kills, was pretty sweet.

Again, I'm not a big fan of his ulti, it doesn't get any better aside from being cast more frequently, and it doesn't seem to get better with your character... maybe I'm wrong here and his ulti power is based on his level, in which case, that's why there are recommendations to play him center lane.

Multi drumming can work at the end for general effectiveness and mana for dagon.

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Permalink | Quote | PM | +Rep by thippo » June 19, 2013 11:18pm | Report
Your general reliance on Shadow Blade, dagon, and Mask of Madness seriously makes me think that you're trying these builds of yours out on a very low skilled matchmaking level, because even in the moderately skilled pub games, those are easy to beat if you put a small amount of effort in to counter them.

And if multiple Drums of Endurance is your end-game, then you're pouring waaaay too much money into Dagon, because Drums are great for stats early on, but that's like saying you should have six branches as your final build; it's very efficient, but you should probably consider trading some of them for better items when you can.

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